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 Post subject: Halco Lures
PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:05 pm 
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Hi,

I would like some input on Halco lures. From your experience, how effective are they compared to Rapala or Yo Zuri and what are the kinds of fish you have landed with it?

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Danny :)


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:00 pm 
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Hello

Have experience with Halco rooster poppers, and i think they are really good lures. Making perfect action.

The Silverspoons from Halco have been killers. The Halco Sliced is my Favourite Silverspoon, it will work for trevally, barracuda and Longtoms

tight lines, markus


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:19 am 
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Danny,

You can't go wrong with Halco lures - these are tough lures made for tough
fishing by the Australians, who will quickly weed out any lure that is not upto par for their conditions.

They make a whole range of lures that will catch you just about any fish in the water.

I have used their lures for trolling to catch GTs, queenfish, barracuda (in Goa),coral trout and also for catching mahseer in Bhakra Dam in Punjab!

Their range of metal lures (Twisties,Sparklers,Slices) have been used by me to catch longtail tuna, Australian salmon (not related to any other salmon),
tailor and trevally - to name a few of the species.

Their factory fitted hooks are quite good although I have had a few of them that opened up slightly under pressure (I am changing over to Owner hooks where possible).

Halco also own RMG whose line of Scorpion lures is excellent and on par with anything that is made by Rapala etc.

As I am based in Australia, Halco/RMG lures are cheaper to buy compared
to Yozuri and Rapala (twice the cost).

This may not be true for you in India.

Regards,

Kingfish


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:23 am 
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Very decent lure company and you'll catch most fish using these lures. I have in the past seen them out fish Rapalas.

Mighty Marlin.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:09 pm 
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Hi Danny ! IF compared with rapala and yozuri they are as good as them. The hook quality on Halco is much better than the other two.. It mostly depends on which fish you are targeting . I have been sucessfully been fishing with Halco Thanks to Kingfish.But all depends what are you fishing for. [smilie=cool_goatee.gif]


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@ madvento, marlin: Thanks guys

@ Kingfish: The Halco's that are available here too are half the price of Rapala and Yozuri. Although I have been told to check if they are originals (not quite sure how to ascertain that). I have purchased two Halco Laserpro 190's (Flouro Green and Flaming Hot). Will give them a shot and see how things work out. I also purchased a Storm Mag Thunderstick, just to add some variety to my kit. Gave it a try today, it moves really well on the retrieve. Let's see how much of a temptation it is for the predators :)

@ Mario: I'm primarily targeting MJ's, Barra and Breams (mostly in my backyard). Any others are also welcome to bite :)


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:37 pm 
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Yes take care for the fakes!

I have been already in one shop in India where they offer fake and original Halco (The fake they sell cheaper).


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:40 pm 
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How do you tell the fakes from an original? I just noticed that the box says 'Made in India'. Not to insinuate anything but could that be a fake? I also heard from a fellow angler that he has had more luck with fake halcos than the originals :P.


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danny1984 wrote:
How do you tell the fakes from an original? I just noticed that the box says 'Made in India'. Not to insinuate anything but could that be a fake? I also heard from a fellow angler that he has had more luck with fake halcos than the originals :P.


ha ha ha ha Danny boy did you ask that angler his primary source of income?? Wont be surprised if he is the one who manufactures them :)

DeZZ


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:10 pm 
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danny1984, I have in the past come across fake Halco hard body trolling lures (Laser Pro 160 & 190). The first couple I was given worked fine, but some lures I later came across from the same source did everything but swim. It makes sense to buy the original stuff and not suffer from lure failure, be it cheap hooks or failure of lure to perform the way it should. As far as I know there is a Halco dealer in India, but I have no details.

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Mighty Marlin.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:24 pm 
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@ Marlin: The Halco that I have swims well in the water. Time will tell I guess. I don't mind paying any amount of money as long as the stuff is original and does what it has to. Let's hope I have the original Halcos :)


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:17 pm 
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Most of the Halcos you find in the south are fakes.
You can easily identify them by the split rings and the hooks(very inferior quality).
But the packing looks original.
Beware when you buy Halcos.
But still I bought some since they were cheap.... 260 to Rs. 390.
Do not know how they will swim . I still have not used them. Will let you know how they perform once i have used them.

Ravi


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:51 pm 
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@ Ravin: I got these Halcos for Rs. 270. The hooks do look a little tacky. Ill upload a pic later.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:41 am 
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Danny,

I am surprised to hear of the Halco fake lures - this in a way is the
ultimate compliment to Halco!!

I keenly await to see the pictures of such lures and I imagine that
Halco Australia would be very interested to see them also.

The Laser Pro 190 model retails for about A$18 in the shops in Sydney, which equates to apprx. Rs.800/-, so how on earth can the ones being sold in India come in some Rs.500/- under price if they ARE originals??

Kingfish


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:53 am 
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The reason why lures (Halco and Rapala) in India are so cheap compared to other countries is i think as followed:

In the "western" world a shop by the lure and will sell it for double the price, thats like the normal calculation for prices.....

In India they probably by it for the same price ad not so much marching on it.

In Indonesia the shops have a diffrent way: They even ask for a higher price then at home! crazy world.....

When you are afraid of fake lures buy only from the Halco Importer for India. Can not give you any details, to respect the forum rules.

greetings, markus


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:11 pm 
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I guess most Western countries follow Keystone pricing. India on the other hand is a very price sensitive market so I'm guessing the retailers here are keeping their margins low but making a decent profit by reducing other costs. Selling fakes is one way I assume. I have uploaded pics of the Halco lure I just purchased. Let me know your thoughts.

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Cheers

Danny


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:36 pm 
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Danny,
Looking at those split rings, I am sure they are fakes.
Atleast the packing in the lure you bought says manufactured in India.
The one I bought says manufactured in Australia.

@Kingfish....Who knows, these fakes must be getting exported to Australia :D :D :D .

Ravi


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ravinp58 wrote:
Danny,

@Kingfish....Who knows, these fakes must be getting exported to Australia :D :D :D .

Ravi


LOL


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:56 am 
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I have raised this matter with TimCarter (Marketing Manager) of Halco
in Australia.

He was fully aware of fakes being sold in India and advised that Halco are taking steps to sort out this situation.

Upon my asking him as to how one may tell if a lure is a genuine Halco,
he mentioned the following points:

1. Fakes are labelled as HALKO

2. The hooks are of an inferior quality (one would have to somehow test
them in order to know, I guess).

3. The split rings have 3 turns on the Halco lures (compared to normal 2 turns).

4. The paintwork is superior (again, one would have to have the original
to compare with the fakes!)

5. The plastic bib on the original is engraved with the depth at which the lure will run (i.e. +1.5m etc.), model # and HALCO.

6. The pricing is a giveaway.

P.S.I have just now seen Danny's picture of the Halco lure and packaging
which seems to open up a different angle to the matter and I will again talk to Tim Carter - will keep you posted.

P.P.S. Danny, can you pls see what it says on the bib of the lure you have in the picture?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:04 pm 
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kingfish wrote:

1. Fakes are labelled as HALKO - The one I have is labelled Halco

2. The hooks are of an inferior quality (one would have to somehow test
them in order to know, I guess). - The hooks on this lure are not that sharp. I was juggling the lure in my hands and there was no serious damage done :)

3. The split rings have 3 turns on the Halco lures (compared to normal 2 turns). - The split rings here have 2 turns.

4. The paintwork is superior (again, one would have to have the original
to compare with the fakes!) - The paint work on this one doesn't look that professional.

5. The plastic bib on the original is engraved with the depth at which the lure will run (i.e. +1.5m etc.), model # and HALCO. - The bib here only mentions the depth and some random model number which does not correspond to the same lure on the Halco website.
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6. The pricing is a giveaway. - It sure is :)



All in all I think we can safely say we have spotted a FAKE. Let's watch out for these tell tale signs.

@ Kingfish: Can you please find out how we can locate original Halcos?

Cheers

Danny


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:12 pm 
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Gentlemen,

Halco have categorically stated that they DO NOT manufacture lures in India.

Caveat emptor (buyer beware).

Kingfish


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:17 pm 
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Danny,

Halco have advised me that they have an Indian agent.

If the forum rules allow it, pls send me a pm and I can pass the agent's details to you - this should enable you to find where they sell original Halco
lures in India.

Failing this, you have to either order these from Australia or have someone parcel these out to you.

Regards,
Kingfish


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:58 pm 
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I think it is fair enough to post this one Kingfish.


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@ Danny: Cast the lure out into the sea and let the fish decide. I mean if the octopus can decide the fate of the world cup then might as well allow the fish to decide if it would prefer a AUD 18.00 or a INR 250 lure :)

DeZZ


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@ Dezz: :D I like how you think. I guess if a home made lure can work why won't a compliment to Halco? I just wanted to figure how to tell a fake from an original (although results from both are dynamic). Now that I know I will let this thread rest :) and make my purchases accordingly.

Appreciate everyone who contributed.

Cheers

Danny


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:43 am 
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Bobby,

I hope I don't get into any trouble with the moderators.

However, so many members have asked me for this information and I am only providing it to help them avoid being ripped off by fakes.

Halco advise that their Indian agents are:

Lakshmi Overseas

Pls forward all enquiries to them.

Over and out from me.

Kingfish


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I used to get Halco lures from them and they do have only two turns in split rings. Even in the Halco Broucher I downloaded from Halco website quite some time ago, the lure images have only two turn split rings.


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