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 Post subject: Landing and releasing
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:37 pm 
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Hi Sandeep,

Sorry for the delay in responding.

I am sure you have realised by now there isn't a middle way. If rules must be framed stringing must be stopped. Don't get me wrong and get the impression I am harping on the issue. I do know fish can be injured by other means and succumb to the injuries. As you know a fighting mahseer takes the angler to submerged rocks and can sustain gaping wounds against them and succumb to osmosis. And again a mahseer landed but not tied can still die. So, a comprehensive procedure for the landing, handling and releasing of mahseer must be involved. With my experience I can help you.

I first heard the argument that a string/ cord passed below the gill cover and through the mouth will not injure gills about five years ago. To clear any doubts please examine a fish carefully. The gill cover is the only protection for the gills. If the string is passed below the gill cover it will still come in contact with the first layer and the passage to the mouth is very small.


framing the rules you have in mind will not be an easy task.

Don


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 Post subject: Trained Gillies
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:01 pm 
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just joined the club - some gen from north india

more concerned with the need for trained gillies and experienced anglers guiding the beginners with mahseer through the landing, taking the fish out of the water and removing the hooks.

see too many stupid pictures around + some on this site with the fish getting treated badly. saw a 40 lbs pix in a resort advert with the dude holding it verticle - dead fish for sure.

damage control during the landing making sure the fish is ready, taking the fish out of the water carefully to avoid fish jerking around and damaging itself with the hook and line, proper removal of hooks with minimum fuss and no damage to the gills requires experience and proper guidance for beginners. it is here that we have dead fish.

stringer for small fish is a stupid thing - their mouths are too small anything below < 10 lbs. Larger fish up north need longer revival and cooling off time after a big fight - I would recommend a stringer to cool off the fish in a quiet pool for 20 minutes depending on the fight before taking a quick picture and release into the water. Large fish have decent space between the mouth and gills and a stringer can be used without injury to the gills.

The other option of holding the fish and reviving it takes long and the human contact with the fish is not required.

A bit of a trade-off here ... but from experience they need the revival time before heading off to the main currents again ...

found weighing also damaging fish - our gang has given up weighing fish and we reach a consensus by visual estimation - a 22 is a 20 or a 25 lb just as much as a 43 is a 40 or a 45 lb - does not really make much of a difference after some time on the river.

Seeing a mahseer swim back into the river is as satisfying as the landing moment ... thats what we need to show the beginners ...


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:57 pm 
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Well put mate!

Just one thing, if you are equipped with a proper weighing bag that is made especially for weighing big fish, and is nicely wet before weighing including the anglers hands, there should be no harm in weighing a fish. It is practised the world over quite effeciently.

The job has to be done quickly and effeciently, and as close to the water as possible.
Same goes for photographs. In a kneeling position with a landing mat below the fish, or the angler standing in the water holding the fish very close to the water level just in case it decides to get hyper.

A hyper fish can be calmed down, by rolling it onto its back when in your arms, for a few seconds.
Great care needs to be taken to ensure that a fish is not allowed to flop around on the ground or even on a landing mat.
All this is easier said than done, but we need to strive for perfection.
Regards
Owen


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:32 pm 
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Hey Bagiganga,

that was perfectly put. A mahseer will always be what you really remember it for... the way it hit the lure... the first run... the moment you first see it.... the wild rush when it first sees you... and then the magic moment when you let it go and it glides away slowly... only to disappear with one flick of its tail.

Thanks mate. I agree weight means is nothing.


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 Post subject: Mahseer Handling JLR
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Hi Bagiganga
Good luck with the video editing it's very time consuming and four years worth will take you forever....but it will be worth it!

I will fish up North at some time I'm sure, maybe on the Ramganga. The putitora mahseer are just stunning fish and I'd love to get a goonch as well as I don't mind catching ugly fish. But from what I've seen on film the place is just amazing so it has to be done at some time.

Andy


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 Post subject: Past Sins
PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:45 am 
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Dear All

I must confess that i have treated fish badly in the past. I have not caught and released(very few that i have caught :D ).I have taken them home to show off, even though Mahseer tastes awful to Bengali purist like me.

Last night between 12 and 3, I went through all the posts on conservation and environment since I am a newbie on the site.It was a genuine eye opener and Vedan's frustration and angst really touched a chord. I haven't caught much fish and probably wont with the current state of affairs and like MKen said neither might my boys.So I thank all of you for this wakeup call and apologies to those fish that have i have sinned against.And i shall endeavor to make up for my past sins.

Phish :(


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And Phish became a Man.


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