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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:43 am 
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Hi i have been hooking these boys sometives 5 to 7 in one day the big ones they look like normal seabass from europe and the local name is doriado or cochunda. Great fried Goa massala style.
Anyone really knows what is this fish.
(when un hookig they make a croaking sound)
This was cought of the rocks in north goa, they respond to mackrel prwns and rappalas medium size minnows.

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 Post subject: common name
PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:29 pm 
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i think its called a croaker just like you said it croaks, it comes to the western coast during the monsoon when its in all its fury


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:59 pm 
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hey i also think thats a Crocker.....
they crock like a frog when you unhook them....
been catching the same from sometime now.....
but what you caught are very big.....


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what did you catch em on?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:15 am 
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The locals call them Doriado, Dorgado maybe because or the golden fins on them in the bottom. similar word to "Dourado" in Portuguese meaning golden, or maybe just my own association due to so many similar words.

The size is not so big on these boys a local took one out of the water with at least 5kilos and 4 times the size of these 2.
After a good 20 min fight the fish topped and we got him out.
I have caught them on rappala minows prawns and mackrel.
They like darker waters and come around at sunset.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:01 am 
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i also think the first 2 smaller ones are slightly different from the bigger ones you caught,those are some kind of drums, its those smaller ones which grow to the 5 kg plus range


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:19 am 
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vincent wrote:
i also think the first 2 smaller ones are slightly different from the bigger ones you caught,those are some kind of drums, its those smaller ones which grow to the 5 kg plus range


I thought the same thing but the locals insist its the same fish and they all make the same croaking sound, including that 5kilos + beast.
The small ones have a rounder head and i catch them only at that size (geat fried).


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:35 am 
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Do the smaller ones have canines like the larger ones?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:42 pm 
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Bobby wrote:
Do the smaller ones have canines like the larger ones?


The first 4 no they don't and the nostrils they have are really funny, they have a rounder head but they all make the same croaking sound.
I think they are different fish they do taste the same.


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Hi Mate,

Yes like people said above they are both croakers and from the Johinus family. Sub grouping them is very difficult from just the pictures. ...

Bobby


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:51 am 
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Hi,

I caught similar fishes in Dahanu at a creek. The locals there call it Dhondere.

I was trying to catch Kharvat which is quite ocassional there by casting bait and lost a couple of hooks as there are a lot of fishing boats there and lots of ropes underwater.

I was then advised to use smaller hooks by a local fisherman as the fishes there were small and I could catch some Singharas or Dhondere (as they call them).

So I packed my rod and made a handline with small hook and thin line, using prawns as bait and joined a couple of kids who were doing the same.

And I caught these.............. and I thought one of the kids was making that constant croaking sound. :lol:

http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... 177ve6.jpg

Sanjay


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:22 pm 
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yea its Crocker


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