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Hi Phish,

Here check out these sites. And do a youtube search.

For a paternoster rig and other sea rigs :

http://www.fishingbuddy.co.uk/sea_fishing_rigs.htm

http://www.sea-angling-ireland.org/traces(s).htm

For knots (you should brush up on a few)

http://www.marinews.com/Double-Centauri ... 121c3e1e91

http://www.animatedknots.com/indexfishi ... dknots.com

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Jeebak, this article below is a very good guide for reading the surf.

http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/ ... ading+surf


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The middle rig of these is the simple fixed paternoster. The only difference between mine and the rig drawn by the artist is the inclusion of a snap link.
This is handy because not only does it allow you to change the size of your lead, it also means that you can unclip the lead, hook the hook into a rod ring frame (never through the "eye" of the ring 'cause you'll damage it) and walk to another location without having 4oz of lead swinging about and damaging your gear.


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thanks bops MS and Ken
the sites are very helpful and all the experience put into one paragraph is much appericiated......
its going to be very helpful for begineers like me....
one more thing that i want to know abt beach fishing is that that there are different techniques that are used for incoming and outgoing tides!!!!!!!??????????
how this techniques are differnt or is it that that the type of fish chnges for the incoming and outgoing tides???????????
also i saw that some people prefer incoming tides where as some prefer receding tides for fishing.
experts input will be very very helpful.
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arun
thanks for the information
though i had no hook ups but then i had lots of fun this friday.........
i went in the night and there were lots and lots of bites but i was not able to convert those.
i guess either that was because of small size of the fishes or i was using much bigger hooks.
hopefully i will be able to catch something soon :)
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Hozefa,

What size hooks were you using? And what bait?

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Arun i was using size 10 last friday

yesterday i changed it to size 12 and i had a hook up and it was a small (hand palm) size sea bream.......
yesterday also there were lots of bites but then i was only able to convert one.
im not sure abt the timing of setting the hook coz the guy standing next to me caught 2decent size fish of 2pounds plus.....

i was doing bottom fishing same as given in the picture above and i kept the line in my hand to sense if fish has taken the bait or not and when there used to be a sort of nibbling then i used to pull the rod in order to set the hook............. but it was only one hook up...........
the guy next to me said that u wait for the fish to take ur bait and then let it run and then try to set the hook......
today also i will try to go and catch something.......
please put some expert view on to it.......
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Try going up to a size 3/O or 4/0 and a sardine the size of your thumb or a similar sized chunk of squid.
Don't strike at the first tap (it'll often be crabs or small fish), wait until you feel a definate pull and then hit it.


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Hozefa,

If the hook size you were using was as per scale of LIMERICK hooks, then the hooks were too small. If you use a Small shrimp (Prawn) as a bait, then use atleast 5, 6 or 7 size hooks (LIMERICK HOOK SCALE).

Follow Mr. Ken's advice if your bait is either Sardine, Mullet or Squid.

Better luck next time.

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Ken,

You have adviced Mr. Hozefa to use either Size 3/0 or 4/0 hooks. Are you refering the scale of LIMERICK hooks?

Please let me know.

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hey mr ken and Mr arun

Where there is a single number quoted, the lower the stated number, the bigger the hook, so a size "20" will be so small that a matchstick will barely fit into the gape (the gap between the point and the shank) whereas with a size 2, the gape will be about 1cm. for bigger hooks, the sizing system changes and will be shown as "1/O", "2/O", "8/O" etc with the hook size getting bigger with the size of the number preceding the "/O".

Mr ken
this is a part of message that u had posted in Hook Sizes(bait, tackle and tactics).............
and i guess in the above post u reffered to the same sizing standards........(or should i say that what was described by u in the previous post was LIMERICK hooks only)

i will change it to the above said size...........
but then i have a doubt and that is the local people that i have interacted with (mostly Phillipines and bangladeshi)
even when im using a size 10 or 12 hook......they tell me that my hooks are too big!!!!!!?????!!!!!!!!!
please put some light on to it.......

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mr ken
you are very right that they are after anything that they can get.
i had gone to a tackle shop on the weekend and was looking for different hooks.....
there i saw bait casting hooks and other stuff.....
are baitcasting hooks different from others!!!!!??????????
and how they are different.
i have already got a set of size 5 and 6.
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Hi guys,
My two cents.
I find a size 8 hook to be ideal for fishing for fish like rohu. Size 4 would be good for Catla. For mahseer its 4/0 to 8/0 for use with Ragi, and 6/0 for use with Chilwa.

For smaller hooks, i prefer a hook made from slightly thicker wire, as they give a better hook hold, and i have less fish pulling free of the hook.

Bait holder hooks have notches cut into the shank. I don't trust those hooks too much after seeing a couple of hooks break off at the shank.
P.S I use only wide gape hooks.
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mr owen
does the same rule apply for both fresh water and salt water fishing........
and what are the advatages of using wide gap hooks.... yesterday i saw octopus hooks as well what are their significance!!!!!????
your 2cents will be help ful
thanks in advance
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I would say that your choice of hook and its size should be dependent on the species and size of the fish that you are targeting. The third factor is the type of bait that you are going to use.

I used to use Oshaunnesy pattern sea hooks for mahseer for a long time with sucess, but now i find myself using wide gape hooks with shorter shank.
As Ken says, the shorter shank hooks make for better presentation, and a wide gape hook does have the advantage of better hookups as the fish takes your bait and turns to flee.

Octopus pattern hooks are great all round hooks.
The hooks have a slightly inturned point which helps ensure a better hook up on the lip or corner of the mouth as the fish turns to flee.
I prefer an octopus hook with a slight offset point for use with livebait.

Circle hooks require you to gradually wind in before striking, to allow the hook to reach the corner of the mouth before you strike. An early strike with a circle hook will more than likely see the hook spring free of the fishes mouth.

Hope that helps
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Mr Owen and Mr Ken
from ur advice i guess as a newbei i should try Wide gape hooks.......
coz i guess round and circle hooks need more precision and practice.........
i will go ahead with wide gape hooks..............
any suggestions on the size that i should go for!!!!!!!!!!
im looking for sea breams (mostly) and whatever i can catch (as a newbei) in arabian gulf area........
right now im not bounded with the size coz im mostly catching the toddlers tat are no bigger than 6".......

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I think size 6 or 8 or 10 should be ok.


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Thanks alot for the valuable suggestions......
and great pictures and report of ur trip....
will give u the feedback.
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