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 Post subject: just another day
PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:04 pm 
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The fishing was done from 10:30AM to 2:30PM on complete low tide / half high tide. Not my usual cup of tea since i mostly fish on the incoming half / full high tide.

Here's a background on the location
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First of the fishes coming in it's a 'one spotted sea bream'
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After a couple of takes here come a 'two banded sea bream'
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The one spotted sea bream keeps coming in...

Now comes the pompano
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Here is a line up of all the fugitives, minus the pompano and two banded sea bream as they have been tossed back in to the sea. The rest of those i kept were fried and eaten shortly thereafter.

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Here is the yellow marked butterfly fish
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This is another yellow marked butterfly fish with a variation
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Here is the one spotted sea bream you can notice the one black spot on his tail.
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The total catch of the day (4hours of fishing with a few breaks)
one spotted bream (10)
yellow marked butterfly fish (3)
two banded sea bream (1)
pompano (1)

An un-invited guest was immediately thrown back into the sea after removing the hook (the indian flathead fish) it's a type of catfish. But i don't really understand why they named him Indian. Grrr.

That's all for now. I don't really like to catch tiny fishes (bait fish) i'm looking for a change in things and i know that a real change will take place only when i have a boat. Untill then i'll be happy with what i get.

Just wanted to do my first post... so here it is.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:26 pm 
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Your "Pompano" is a "silver tripod fish" http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur ... =106&prev=

Flathead, such as the bartail flathead, which is commonly caught in India are not catfish and they make good eating. Just be carefull of the spines on the gill covers and dorsal fin which do have venom on them.
The only safe way to handle them is to either wrap them in a towel or flip them over and put your fingers into the gill covers and gently pinch and lift.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:04 pm 
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Hi Ken, i was tied up for a while on identification of the fish. I was debating with myself on identifying the fish between a Emperor and a Pompano. I was referring to a Fish Chart to identify the fish. The Fish chart i'm referring to is

http://www.mmcfishing.com/images/Marine ... s_155_.jpg

These are the fishes that inhabit the Gulf region (Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain...)

The catfish i caught dosen't exist on the chart. It gives me the creeps, its slimy brown in color with black spots on it. The little fellow is so aggressive that he keeps on beating around the ground for quite a long time after being pulled out of the water. I can't take any chances of holding him in my hands. I hold him gently with my feet (shoes on !) even them he's tough to handle, while i unhook him and send him back to his home.

I always use a pair of cotton gloves to handle fish. My fingers are already sore with fish hook piercings whenever i tie the fish hook, and i use a pair of nose pliers to take the hook of. Sometimes i imagine that i'm the surgeon operating on the fish.... :roll:

Thanks for the help in identification and also the tip on catfish i appreciate it.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:38 pm 
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Is this your boy ?
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If it is, then it's the Spotted catfish (Arius maculatus) and they're nasty squeeky little swines. Not sure about aggressive though.
They have sharp dorsal and pelvic spines and to be honest, we usually just get a hold of one spine with pliers and once the hook is out, we just toss them straight back.

A full list of Indian marine fish can be found by selecting "India" and "Marine" in the "Information by Country / Island" section of http://www.fishbase.org/search.php. This is very handy.
Once to go in to look at a specific species, click on the photo and it will show a library of images of that fish.

The flathead that I was talking about is not a catfish, it's one of these http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/Species ... php?id=950
Have you caught any yet ?


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 Post subject: yes this is the flathead
PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:47 pm 
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yes Ken this is the fish (the flathead that you showed) i was mentioning gives me the shivers just looking at him. I cant' bear the sight of those things scares the hell out of me when i hook one.

I didn't catch the spotted catfish yet looks pretty, i know they are wild things but i'd like to catch it sometime soon.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:38 am 
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Hi Alistair,

Good catch :wink:

This fish are the same that we catch here in Dubai.

After seeing the fish chart, I noticed that in quite a few instances, the names dont seem to be correct.
Heres a link to the UAE govt website for fisheries.

http://www.uae.gov.ae/uaeagricent/FISHE ... ish_en.stm


The second pic of 'another yellow marked butterfly fish with a variation' could be an arabian monocle bream. (I'm saying this because of the body shape/colour & also marking below the eye)

http://www.uae.gov.ae/uaeagricent/FISHERIES/img/P96.jpg

Like Ken mentioned the pompano is a tripod fish. They are quite common here in Dubai, but of the golden/yellow colour.

http://www.uae.gov.ae/uaeagricent/FISHE ... g/P160.jpg

Two bar sea bream:
http://www.uae.gov.ae/uaeagricent/FISHE ... g/P151.jpg


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:17 am 
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Nice fish Alistar, Ken's right with the ID's...was going to write myself before scrolling down and seeing what Ken wrote.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:58 pm 
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hey Alistair
where were all this fish caught?????????????
i mean where in middle east???!!!!!!!

im staying in kuwait and im not able to find jetty from where i can do some fishing.........
i do beach fishing and its next to impossible to fish during low tide time...........

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 Post subject: Location Kuwait
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:13 pm 
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Hi Hozefa these fishes were caught on 1 Dec 07 at Mina Fintas, Kuwait :lol:


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hey thats great........
but then ur location is showing BC, Canada.......
i guess u r on a visit to kuwait!!!!!!!!??

by the way its nice to see some one from kuwait.........
and one more thing.... can anyone go to mina fintas and do fishing or its resticted to members only!!!??????


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 Post subject: hi Hozefa
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:59 pm 
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Presently i'm in Kuwait and next year i'll be relocating to Bahrain.

The first pic showing the background location will make things easier to locate the place.

The second picture is the 'spot' from where i fished. It is actually a restricted area but there are people going there. That's how i reached there by just following one of the other anglers.

It's officially 'not a secret spot' anymore :lol: You will surely find it and have a good time fishing there :) My best wishes to you 8)


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:11 pm 
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hey alistar
thanks for ur best wishes........... i need it....
being a begineer its difficult to fish without guidence and thats one thing very difficult to find here.

by the way what was the tackle??????
i mean float fishing or spinning?????
i can see a lure in the mouth of pompano.........
can u put some light on to this.............
and ur tactics as well....
regards
hozefa.


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 Post subject: tackle
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:48 pm 
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You could call it surf casting since it was from the beach. The tackle used on this trip was :
Rod : Master turbo surf 2150-3002 - 2 pcs - 1.55mts
Reels : Viking vi 5000 (the bearing gave up and it stopped cranking so I had to use a new one) Gold EF 90
Line : Arctic Strong - .40mm / 9.07Kg (made in india)
Leader : Berkley Big Game 20lbs / 2ft leader
Hooks : 8, 6, 4, 1/0 (keep changing on the mood)
Bait / Lure : Squid cut in bits and Lure was Rapala I don't know the exact name but I'll update you on this in a couple of days.

Tactics are the same as others you throw the bait in and wait for the fish to strike. But don't wait for long as the fish have long since gone after eating the bait and you won't know. Once you feel that a fish is nibbling give the line a tug to set the hook :twisted: . After that it's between you and the fish … 8) .

Good Luck Brother :-)


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 Post subject: long distance casting
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:56 pm 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI33hVU0hys

Take a look at that vid it will definitely help in improving casting distance.

Also this guy is good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIUbETcQhss

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:59 pm 
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thanks for sharing the information
its going to be very helpful this friday......


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 Post subject: Rapala countdown
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:37 pm 
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The lure used was a 'Rapala countdown' pictures of similar models are here

http://www.rapala.com/products/luresdet ... salt=Fresh


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