Thanks for the reply, before I go further I would like to make one point clear. I would like people reading to realize this is a healthy exchange of views and not a slugfest.
Hong Kong is a place where we get a lot of farmed fish and believe me you can tell the difference. They are loaded with fat so much that they are disgusting at times and there is a considerable difference in the flavour, this is owed to the monotonous diet. Having said this, I have had a few fish on occasions at restraunts that I believe were farmed of the rock cod species and they were quite pleasant. Another problem with certain feeds are the toxins they build in fish, this is an interesting link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3380735.stm
and there are several articles like these you can find over the net.
Over here farmed fish are kept in floating pens in the open sea the whole farm is floating structure including the farmers house. It is an ingenious way solve your water circulating issues so that the fishes have a continuous flow of fresh water. You can pay some of these fish farmers who will take you on to these floating farms and you can fish off them on the outside. What is interesting is that these fish farmers prefer to catch the fish outside the pens, wild fish. I asked them why, they say that prefer the taste the wild caught fish and do not eat their own farmed fish.
Yes I do agree with you here “common sense is not common” I have seen a slaughter even in ‘civilized’ Australia (Sydney Harbour), this will only stop with education. However I have also seen anglers who are not on this forum release fish in good old Mumbai. So I would not go the extreme of saying “people will kill for the sake of killing” I am sure this is not what you mean but it comes of as; just a hallowed few over here are the only ones who release and the rest are wanton killers. “What you catch can be thrown back after a Kodak moment” agree absolutely.
About hook-ups – you are right about my coarse fishing experience, slim to none
. I have coarse fished a few times years ago, however I have bait fished enough. Sure, you do occasionally get a fish swallowing a lure too deep, the last Barra I caught got its eye ripped off completely by the hooks at the other end of the lure
. So I am NOT saying that you are never going to kill a fish by fishing lures, what I am saying is that if you make a comparison between bait fishing and lure fishing you would see there is a considerable difference between fish deep swallowing a bait than a lure. I take my kids to fish in a closed artificial environment where people bait fish a lot and you will be surprised to see the number of dead and dying fish all caught with bait and then released, here you get a true picture of the toll bait fishing takes on fishes, this I have seen with my own eyes. In the wild you do not get to see it as these dead fish are washed away and scavenged. What people don’t see they don’t know and in most cases do not want to know. “Strike at the time is right”, how many of us can honestly claim to do that perfectly or define what the right time is? Fishing programs, Coarse fishing or otherwise almost never show us the bad hooks up. This does not mean to say it never happens. And when they do show a fish with a swallowed hook, they get to the subject of fish crap, saying the fish will pass it through. What are the chances of a fishing hook passing clean through digestive system? Common sense will give us that answer
Hong Kong harbour is a little more ‘fragrant’ than it was a few years ago
they are cleaing it up, they have moved the whole industrial district that was polluting the Harbour to another location. However it was chemical pollution and not over fishing. I have taken and released Sea Bass in the harbour albeit fully loaded with mercury. I reiterate, I have never said kill your saltwater catch, what I have said is apply sensibility to what you take. People need to take into account size and type of the fish caught also take just one or two fish for yourself and not take fish so that you can distribute to your entire neighborhood. If people want to release everything that is even more noble, hats off to guys like you. Forums like this one can, do and should educate people about fish and fishing. You have your views and even though I differ slightly, I respect them. I am NOT asking you or people who want to release all they catch to take a couple of fish for the pot. I think it is great you release your catch.
There is a difference between education and literacy, a person with a doctorate in physics is not necessarily educated in Ichthyology or angling. So you can say, as far as the subject of angling goes an experienced angler who is illiterate is more educated in the field of angling than some who has a PhD in physics and knows nothing about angling. But, perhaps it would be a lot more easy to explain the philosophy or catch and release to the PhD than it would be to the illiterate angler.
My definition of “OK”, I think that my post has gone on long enough, but in a nutshell, OK for me would be, knowing the species of fish I am catching, knowing how rare this species is and if I want to take one home for the pot, it would have to be the right size and species. And when I release my catch I make sure I have cared for the fish and released it properly.
I really think that the key is Education and not pressure. Forcing someone to do something is not the correct approach, but explaining why something should or should not be done is key. Two negatives do not make a positive it makes an even greater negative.