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 Post subject: Best plugs for channa
PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:32 pm 
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I have a small lake near my house which is full of stinging catfish (Heteropneustes fossilis) and Spotted snakehead (channa punctatus) but i had no luck catching this small snakehead on anything beside common worm. I have tried small spinners, spoons and plastic frogs etc any idea why?

And can you guys tell what is your best plug for murrel ? ... My favourite is silver grey rapala husky jerk

Has anyone tried blue fox vibrax and minnow spinners as well, These lures are very commonly available here in Pakistan .. I am gonna try them in next season


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:04 pm 
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Mepps spinners size 2 or 3 is what we use out here.
Live frogs should work. The artificial frogs do very well here, just have to ensure the hooks are mounted in the right direction so that you get a kind of natural swimming action.
Frogs on a float should work too.
Small fish (black spot on the tail) should work well.
I never have tried plugs for murral.
Best time of the day to be out spinning for murral is in bright sunshine.
Try varying the retrival speeds till you find the ideal speed and stick to that.
Sometimes they just won't look at your spinner, even if it passes 2 feet from them, at other times the dudes will practically wrap themselves around them.
From my limited experience with murral, if they are there, it just requires 1 or 2 casts in that direction. If there are no takes move on.
There are lakes in north india where murral react the same way to a lure as the murral you describe. But sooner or later their predatory instinct gets the better of them.
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Owen


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 Post subject: spinners
PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:20 pm 
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Spinners seem to work best for me Hasham. Blade sizes 2 to 3.

Best

Ryan


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 Post subject: Re: spinners
PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:59 am 
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Wolf wrote:
Spinners seem to work best for me Hasham. Blade sizes 2 to 3.

Best

Ryan


Thats is quite strange as Top water plugs are most commonly used lures for snakehead in Thailand, Malaysia and Korea ... I too have experienced that they work better than spoons


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:43 pm 
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They call me old fashioned :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:01 pm 
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Yeah I agree .... Rum and Coke rite ?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:10 pm 
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Hey Owen!

Can you post a pic or link of artificial frog that you use ... I am using nature's facsimile frogs they dont have any swimming action they just float on top of water


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:44 pm 
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The ones i use are pretty simple, and don't have much of a swimming action either. But i have seen some that are very realistic.
I have taken out the original hook from these frogs, and replaced them with thicker gauge hooks, after a big one bent one out of shape.
In the WASI lakes you just need to dunk the frog under water and lift it up and down a few times to get some action if the murral are around.
I have been float fishing at the lakes, and found the murral coming for the float during retrival, so the swimming action does seem too important here. However a double hook would probably ensure better hookup rates than the singles that i am using. Will post some pix of the frogs asap.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:32 pm 
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I heard them red cockroaches work mitey well !!!

Mr. Bosen - Tried them ??


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:34 am 
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Don't have to search too hard for them do we!
No Gav never tried them.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:24 pm 
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Then wat u waiting for.... Give it a go !!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:00 pm 
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I feed the arowanas cockroaches ,,, gives their scales a reddish tinge .... In fact in Singapore they actiually breed cockroaches at the arowana farms to feed the lille aros so that the color is great when they go up for sale .. Im getting a couple more as I have 2 spare tanks


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:06 pm 
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Let's change the subject to "plugs for Arowanos"... :P :P

Owen - If them raoches work well for Aros then they will work well on them Murrels..


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:27 pm 
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Please don't bring any of your Bong cockys with you Gav, we are adequately stocked :-)


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:28 pm 
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Its a package deal with Gav ... He comes fishing so do his roaches


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:19 pm 
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As Matter of fact i do feed my pet snakeheads all the roaches i can find ! :D


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:49 am 
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Hasham - You have pet snakeheads ?? :shock: :shock: :shock:
Do u practice on them ?? :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:34 am 
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News from the Kaveri. Dirk called from Bheemeshwari to say they had a 25 pound mahseer besides some smaller ones, and loads of cats.
Also had some long runs from the groundbaited area, that sounds to me like Rohu, but unfortunately they were using large hooks and did not connect properly.

Here's a funny one.
Dirk decided to give the frogs that we have been reccomending for murral a go, unfortunately he chose the wrong rod, and used a rather oversized rod to chuck the frog out with.
Now the frogs that he brought with him are very life like, soft and slippery. Well with the effort of the cast, the frog ripped right off the hook, and landed in the water a few feet from the bank. And to his amazement up came this huge murral and down went the frog only to be spat out a few minutes later. The frog is back in his tackle box with a few battle scars.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:39 am 
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Oversized rod ??? :shock: :shock:

No Comment :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:02 am 
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Gavin what you mean by practice on them :shock: :shock: :shock:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:12 am 
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That was an attempt at a straight delivery.. :shock:

I mean do u practice casting with different baits and lures to check if they are attracted to them and then try the same on the wild waters :?:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:52 am 
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Gav ... i think you owe Hasham a PM .....


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:44 am 
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PMed


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:09 pm 
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Yeah! that is the main idea! But findings are pretty inconclusive. As in captivity they take almost any thing of animal origin that comes in their path.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:12 pm 
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What would happen if Hasham's snakeheads met up with Freddie's Arowanos ?? :roll: :roll: :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:12 pm 
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Gav , stay out of that tank


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:13 pm 
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No comment .... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:38 pm 
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Can anyone let me know if the frog displayed below can be effective for murrel!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:26 am 
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Hi Vinod - I think they should do , but am no expert in this field however I think Owen is gonna enjoy these annd you gonna get a call from the Old Man !!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:08 am 
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Thanks Gavin for your encouraging reply.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:45 am 
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I think this frog should work, Try imparting some gentle ploping action with rod as this is probably Renosky weedless natural frog and it does not have any swimming action.


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 Post subject: Frogs
PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:01 am 
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I've seen some action on these scum frogs Vinod.
best
Axx
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:41 am 
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Hi guys!
Any of those frogs will work in our WASI lakes. What concerns me is the quality of hooks used on some of the frogs (even the expensive ones).
Most times i remove the original hooks and replace them with 4/0 O'shaunnesy hooks after the original hooks came out mangled out of shape one day.
Regards
Owen


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:37 pm 
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HI Owen,
Whats been your experience with the froggies and murrel?
Best
Axx


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:12 pm 
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Only recently started using froggs eljefe, the very first time i dangled one down from the coracle just below the surface at Forbes Sagar (it was raining like hell) and i thought the frog was better off in the water than i the coracle. Up came this huge mother and mangled the hook.
Have been a froggy fan ever since.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:38 pm 
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OB,
I think you must be a serious contender for Titanium fish hooks!
Are they available or a figment of my imagination?
Plan to use the 'OB/Film roll open ended feeder' soon-No luck with khal, so will convert the veggies to non vegggies...
Best
Axx


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:44 pm 
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Titanium hooks! New one on me mate.
I can't believe that you don't get oil cake over there. My brother lives in Jharkhand and Gavin in Kolkata, there is loads of the stuff available in those 2 states.
Mustard oil is popular in your neck of the woods, so look out for a small factory that processes the stuff and you will strike pay dirt.

An alternate would be to use some atta that is not too tightly packed. Add some haldi to it, and maybe some soaked kabuli channa / bengal gram / indian corn.
A great hook bait that i ralized recently for carp is indian corn. The sweet corn sold in cans is fantastic, but a bit expensive @ Rs64/- a can of 350gms.
I will send you some factory made feeders and some great floats after i get back from this trip.
PM me your address.
Regards
Owen


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:25 pm 
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Found a couple of doodh wallahs, they said they would get me KHAL, but disappeared.Have asked my driver to get it from his village.Guess I didnt try very hard-the last 3 planned trips didnt materialise... :twisted:
Was joking about the titanium hooks, who knows, they may not be a figmentation of my imagent :wink:
Thanks for the offer, you are welcome.PM'd you
Best
Axx


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You will find it at the closest atta chakki shop :-), since they supply all the waste as fodder to the small dairies.


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Hello All Anglers
Cheers

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http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/ubb ... mming_Frog


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