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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:32 pm 
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For some reason,

I am not able to catch a single murrel on these frogs. I never got a single strike on these. Looks like I am doing something wrong

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For some reason,

I am not able to catch a single murrel on these frogs. I never got a single strike on these. Looks like I am doing something wrong
-Inder


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Believe it or not !!! [smilie=giggle.gif]

The Clever Doctor is spitting on his frogs before casting [smilie=nod.gif] [smilie=lol.gif][/quote]


OH GOD :!: :!: :!: my secret is out :lol: :lol: :lol:


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hi inder, these are the few things that i learnt about frogging

1- always fish frogs on or near weed beds and weed margins.frog like lures are designed for fishing vegetation and little else. the most common application for these baits are lily pads, moss and dense vegetation that has peaked out and matted on the surface.

2-generally, frog-imitating lures have very little built-in action; it has to be created by rhythimically moving the rod tip.

3-retrive with short twiches. fish the frog slowly, allowing it to linger when pulled up on a pad or dropped into a small open water pocket.

4-when the weeds are thick, they will support the weight of the frog and the murrel can detect its vibrations as it moves overhead.

5- murrel usually take the frog in one of two ways: blow up through the grass to inhale the frog or wait for it to fall into an open hole or pockets in the vegetation before grabbing it.

6-toss the frog into openings in the vegetation and hesitate long enough for the ripples to subside. skitter the frog across the weeds, hesitating whenever it comes to an open spot.

7- the most common mistake in froggin is setting the hooks too soon. it takes nerves of steel to be able to watch a murrel blast through the vegetation and nail the frog while resisting the urge to set the hook.

8- frogs are known to be 'bum hookers'. but you can significantly improve your hooking percentage by bending the hook outwards.

9- put some small BB's in the frogs body. the shot makes a subtle sound that seems to attract murrel, and the extra weight helps in casting.

10- make a tandem frog rig by tying on a pair of frogs spaced 3 feet apart. should a murrel miss the front lure, it will often attack the second one. you can also attach chicken skin to the hooks for that added attraction.


i have used different kinds of frogs but the best for me is the scum frog.

the downside of catch and release is that we are educating the fish. if there is a lot of angling pressure where you fish and a lot of anglers are using frogs, then chances of frogs working are little, cause they know that little bugger pricks. :lol: . whenever i fish a spot, i give that place rest for a month before i go there again.

hope this helps :D opinions of murrel experts welcome. :D


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Hi Dr. Aamir,

After our Sunday outing, I was back to work and so could not post any message on the Forum. Thanks for sharing the pics of our trip so promptly.

Thanks a lot for sharing your expertise on technics one should use for hooking Murrel. I am sure Mr. Inder would soon catch Murrel on frog. :-)

With Best Regards,


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Awesome explanation and some good tips on fishing them murrels.

Will put them in practice during my next fresh water outdoors.

Cheer Doc - DeZZ


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caught this guy today morning on a frog. was trying for rohu. huge ones were splashing all around but no takes.so decided to try for murrel instead before leaving. took the frog on the second cast. released





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Hi Dr. Aamir,

Hearty Cogratulations! Nice Murrel. Was it on Black Frog again?

Thanks for sharing the photograph. Any luck with Rohus?

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yes arunji, its the black frog again :D . they'll come on spinners too but i like the explosive strikes on frogs. :D . no luck with rohus :roll: even the local handliners say the bites have stopped after the first rain. huge rohus were rolling on the surface( splashes were like someone falling in the water). just before the rains started, the handliners caught a 16.5 kg rohu and several in the 5-7 kg range.

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Congratulation Dr. Aamir! nice murrel... what the difference between using spinners and frogs? Is there any other way we can hook murrels?


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hi arish, there are a million ways to catch murrel. spinners,spoons, spinnerbaits, plugs, poppers, frogs, hair jigs and grubs, soft plastics, buzz baits and ofcourse dead and live baits etc....


in spinning, you cant see the fish striking but can only feel it. in frogging you not only feel the strikes but you can see them coming. if you can imagine in slow motion the wave of water coming towards your frog followed by an explosion, you can feel your heart pounding with excitement. moreover with experience you know that a strike is imminent. i cant describe the excitement i feel while frogging. i dont know if i can compare this but you can ask a fly fisher what they feel when a trout takes a dry fly. i dont say that you can use frogs everywhere but if the conditions permit i will always use a frog to anything else.

i must say here that spinning will result in more fish but hauling out fish after fish is not nessecary to have a great day. one satisfying catch is enough to lighten up your entire week or month for that matter.

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Dr. Aamir, thanks a ton for the tips :D

Appreciated!


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Congrats Doc :D
once again Casting while Fasting and having a lot of fun :lol:
Carry on .........

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good show and a nice fish too :-)


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hi guys, went fishing this morning and caught three murrels and lost another three good ones. the water is still high and muddy after the rains but the bites have started. caught them on the usual frog. got a chance to test my baitcaster combo. works wonderfully.




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Congrats Nice fish.


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Man you are going to clean the canal of fishes. Congrats.


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Congrats Doc :lol:

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Congratulation Doc :D

look like you are having the highest no. of murrels in your account!


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nice murrel doc. congrats on a succesful sunday trip and thanks for sharing.

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thanx guys :D . i was wondering how many of us are using baitcasting equipment. casting is very accurate once you get the hang of it and you can use heavier line without sacrificing distance. the only drawback i could think of is that the reel wont sing when line is taken. :( previously getting murrel out of the weeds was a nightmare with the 12lb line. not anymore.

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dr aamir bhavnagri wrote:
thanx guys :D . i was wondering how many of us are using baitcasting equipment. casting is very accurate once you get the hang of it and you can use heavier line without sacrificing distance. the only drawback i could think of is that the reel wont sing when line is taken. :( previously getting murrel out of the weeds was a nightmare with the 12lb line. not anymore.

regards,

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Looks like you are enjoying the curado..... Trust me I did not touch a spinnning reel for spinning after using the curado.....Loved it just awesome, when the wind is strong and you are using light lure like frog.... increase the break... distance will be very slightly compromised but accuracy and easy will be at its optimum.... I am still using the penn squall 14 for surf casting on an okuma 12 ft surf casting rod, it can cast a mile without a problem.....


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thanks cristopher for this fantastic piece of equipment. :D


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Congrats Doc.. :)


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thanks santosh, here's todays catch. after many near misses i attached a stinger hook to the frog with surgical tubing. improved the hookup rate considerably. i hope no ones getting bored with all the pictures :D


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frog with the stinger attached.



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Doc u are amazing !!!!!!!

There is a lot to learn from u but i am sad that this time my schedule is tight. Some very nice murrels there :-) :-)


keep them coming
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well manish, all of us are learning from each other. :D thats the beauty of this forum. all of us share new ideas and techniques. :lol:


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Yes you are right doc..... :-) :-)


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Doctor Aamir you are on a roll!


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Congrats Doc.


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congratulations dactoor! the stringer bit is ingenious!....

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You are on a roll doc. Some very good catches. Keep on doing it.

Congratulations and Regards,

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Amazing catches doc.


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Congratulations & Carry on Doctor :lol:

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doctor i must call you murrel king nice fishing


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thanks arish, apoo and alibhai.

@omesh- thanks, the stinger is a very old method to take care of fish that come short. far from ingenious :D

thanks spoonangler, sayedbhai


@merwyn- i am just a lucky bloke who happens to live near murrel country.


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good catching and pictures


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dr aamir bhavnagri wrote:
@omesh- thanks, the stinger is a very old method to take care of fish that come short. far from ingenious :D


Didn't know..... thanks for the info! still got lots to learn.....


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hi guys, i went today morning to check out a new spot with my angling friends. we left early today around 5:30 in the morning. reached the spot around 6am. there were no bites till around 8:30. the water was high and the current fast. tried everything from spinners to spinner baits to plugs.. nothing worked . then we found a spot with slack water and weeds matted out. as soon as we started using scum frogs, the bites started. my friend abidbhai set the ball rolling for us with a nice 2 pounder which was released. then dr yasser caught an adventureous tiny fellow which was again releaed. (i wonder how it presumed the frog will fit in its mouth) . after a while, i cast my frog near an isolated patch of weeds. as soon as the frog touched water on the edge, there was a big ripple on the weeds as a fish turned direction to investigate the intruder. i knew what was going to happen. so i braced for the impact . a huge explosion followed and the fish took line on a full drag and managed to free itself. no problem, i know you are at home and i'll be back. so left that place to rest for another 30 minutes or so. came back, bent the hooks a little outwards, cast again and the same sequence followed. ultimately landed the murrel. here are a few pics.


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Nice catch. Congrats


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Nice catches Aamir!!


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I had many previous strikes by murrell but never had a hook set, today was the first... and it was amazing to see how courageous murrell are the first fish to get hooked was only 5 iches long and as Aamirbhai said even i am intrigued at how that bugger thought it could fit a frog in its mouth


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Nice Murrells! Congrats on your catches!


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naaiice! like the part " i know your at home .. waited 30mins .. and i'll be back.. greedy chaps those murrel.. and a whooper greeted you for the effort and tactic.


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Congrats for the beautiful Catches to Both the Docs [smilie=gt-happyup.gif]

With more and more Doctors getting Infected by the Angling bug and surprisingly till date there is [smilie=nope.gif] no cure for this infection [smilie=lol.gif] [smilie=lol.gif]

:twisted: :twisted: Next time when my Family Doctor comes late I will ask him only one question !! " How Many did You Catch Doc ??? " [smilie=lol.gif] [smilie=lol.gif]

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Yasser wrote:
I had many previous strikes by murrell but never had a hook set, today was the first... and it was amazing to see how courageous murrell are the first fish to get hooked was only 5 iches long and as Aamirbhai said even i am intrigued at how that bugger thought it could fit a frog in its mouth


Yasser I believe that attack by the little one on your frog was a result of Aggression and not of hunger :wink:
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With more and more Doctors getting Infected by the Angling bug and surprisingly till date there is [smilie=nope.gif] no cure for this infection [smilie=lol.gif] [smilie=lol.gif]

:twisted: :twisted: Next time when my Family Doctor comes late I will ask him only one question !! " How Many did You Catch Doc ??? " [smilie=lol.gif] [smilie=lol.gif]

This was my first Murrell catch all this while i only used to see Aamirbhai catching the Murrells i only got strikes and misses :roll: i used to think am i ever going to get 1..

But with murrells the strikes give the most adrenaline rush, most of the times u see a splash or a massive ripple as the murrell comes through the weeds even when the hook isn't set u can feel the power :shock: of the strike through the rod... and sometimes u can actually see the fish follow the frog and strike :P


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Yasser wrote:
............But with murrells the strikes give the most adrenaline rush, most of the times u see a splash or a massive ripple as the murrell comes through the weeds even when the hook isn't set u can feel the power :shock: of the strike through the rod... and sometimes u can actually see the fish follow the frog and strike :P


@ Dr Yasser it is nice to know that you are enjoying this sport :D Welcome to the exciting Madness called Fishing , in Saltwater the Fun is Multiplied many times more, do try to tag along Dr Aamir when he goes saltwater fishing and you will have more Fun :-)
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This is big fat Murrel! Congratulation Doc! :D

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caught five murrels this morning. two murrels of 1 lb each were kept, rest were released.

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