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 Post subject: Ground bait for Murrel!!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:42 pm 
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Can anybody describe what should be the ground bait for murrel? :? :? :?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:15 pm 
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Sudipta wrote:
Can anybody describe what should be the ground bait for murrel? :? :? :?


No such thing for multiple reasons:

1) Sol are solitary fish and territorial; they don't move in packs and will not gather for a feast.
2) They are motion hunters. One will geta higher hit rate with a lure being pulled through the water rather than a static bait. They attack motion.
3) If you ground bait with meat etc., you'll attract more turtles than fish... bigger pain in the butt.

if you discover a good ground bait, patent it.... you'll be a rich man...


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Thanks man.......great description..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:10 pm 
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Sudipta wrote:
Can anybody describe what should be the ground bait for murrel? :? :? :?


You need Ali in a rocking boat turning blue in the face for that recipe :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:48 pm 
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Fredfish wrote:
Sudipta wrote:
Can anybody describe what should be the ground bait for murrel? :? :? :?


You need Ali in a rocking boat turning blue in the face for that recipe :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Heard that chum slick spread all the way to Goa!

    On a more serious note. you can try the following.

    * Get a few capsules of cod liver oil. Prick them with a pin and get them into the water.

    * a tin of good oil based dog food. (chicken liver) Make lots of holes in the tin and throw it in. Guaranteed to get the damn turtle there!

    * Throw some fresh chicken liver into a blender and make into a nice paste. Mix this paste with lots of mud and then make into balls. Chuck them in. Again guaranteed to make the turtles appear.


    hope this helps.


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Thanks a lot Mahaseerken!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D


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Mahaseerken wrote:
Fredfish wrote:
Sudipta wrote:
Can anybody describe what should be the ground bait for murrel? :? :? :?


You need Ali in a rocking boat turning blue in the face for that recipe :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Heard that chum slick spread all the way to Goa!

    On a more serious note. you can try the following.

    * Get a few capsules of cod liver oil. Prick them with a pin and get them into the water.

    * a tin of good oil based dog food. (chicken liver) Make lots of holes in the tin and throw it in. Guaranteed to get the damn turtle there!

    * Throw some fresh chicken liver into a blender and make into a nice paste. Mix this paste with lots of mud and then make into balls. Chuck them in. Again guaranteed to make the turtles appear.


    hope this helps.



Topic was Ground Bait for Sol!!! But you got the turtle ground bait right!!! :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:18 pm 
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I know someone who is lathering himself with this stuff right now!

Hey Gypsy!
I will be at the dam next weekend. Hope to catch you there.


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Mahaseerken wrote:
I know someone who is lathering himself with this stuff right now!

Hey Gypsy!
I will be at the dam next weekend. Hope to catch you there.



You is on... you have my number, call me a day before you leave. At pong... Will meet you directly at Bhakra.

do you have a spare scum frog? If so pls. carry!!!

Cheers,


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Mahaseerken wrote:
I know someone who is lathering himself with this stuff right now!

.


hahahahahahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: hey what happened to the visit with henry mate no news :?:


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Has anyone thought about indirect groundbaiting for Murrel? I.E. groundbaiting for the bait that Murrel will feed on? :idea:


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:46 pm 
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hmm very interesting, thought....

lets see .. murrel eat frogs small fish , crabs and insects naturally..

also being opportunistic they will feed on any creature that
1. would chance to fall in their path ..

2. provided they are smaller than the murrel

3. provided the murrel are hungry :wink:

with the above premise ... i suppose ine could ground bait with insect larvae, maggots, chummed entrails...and such...

what do u think , bobby....would it work.
:?:


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hamour wrote:
hmm very interesting, thought....

lets see .. murrel eat frogs small fish , crabs and insects naturally..

also being opportunistic they will feed on any creature that
1. would chance to fall in their path ..

2. provided they are smaller than the murrel

3. provided the murrel are hungry :wink:

with the above premise ... i suppose ine could ground bait with insect larvae, maggots, chummed entrails...and such...

what do u think , bobby....would it work.
:?:



Thats a very shot gun approach to the whole exercise... take into account the fundamental fact that Sol are territorial, and only migrate in open water. They rarely migrate when they have cover, and that too will only do so when they have finished off their prey in that area. Furthermore, they are ambush hunters.

Trust me, it is more fun stalking Sol if you know how rather tahn create a swim which attacts everything else but murrel!!!

Cheers,


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:31 pm 
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"Trust me, it is more fun stalking Sol if you know how ."

hi I.G.

please pm details on stalking SOL.. know how...

my previous post was mere musing .. although im sure it would attract lots of prey species that murrel stalk .. over some time..

besides who really will do that... no time really...

btw.. was at a great spot for murrel today.. also saw locals handline live frogs for murrel.. didnt see action though... i was there for quite some time...... will be going there again soon.


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hamour wrote:
hmm very interesting, thought....

lets see .. murrel eat frogs small fish , crabs and insects naturally..

also being opportunistic they will feed on any creature that
1. would chance to fall in their path ..

2. provided they are smaller than the murrel

3. provided the murrel are hungry :wink:

with the above premise ... i suppose ine could ground bait with insect larvae, maggots, chummed entrails...and such...

what do u think , bobby....would it work.
:?:


I think IG has made some interesting points there. I am not into freshwater fishing and do not know anything about Murrel so I would not be the correct person to offer any advice on this. Guys like IG and MK would be ideal for this. I was just sharing an idea. Remember however if you do try it, you would not want to attract undesirables like turtles so need to think about what you want to pre-bait with.

Being a lure fisherman, I completely agree with IG about stalking fish, there's something very special about fishing in this manner and the satisfaction you get from that when you take a fish will be immense.


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hamour wrote:
"Trust me, it is more fun stalking Sol if you know how ."

hi I.G.

please pm details on stalking SOL.. know how...

my previous post was mere musing .. although im sure it would attract lots of prey species that murrel stalk .. over some time..

besides who really will do that... no time really...

btw.. was at a great spot for murrel today.. also saw locals handline live frogs for murrel.. didnt see action though... i was there for quite some time...... will be going there again soon.



Hi Hamour,

There are no 'details' for stalking fish. What you need to do is develop watercraft. Unfortunately, this is not something you can pickup from a book; it will happen over time. All you need to do is be observant of and in tune with your eniviornment.

Next time at the waters edge, take into account things as basic as wind direction, foliage, obstructions (sunken trees, bridge pylons etc.). Look at the picture mother nature is presenting you and try to analyze it. Trust me, it is not rocket science.

You won't find fish everywhere in a river, pond or lake. They have their fav. hangouts too... Like MK says, you won't find deer everywhere in a forest... only in places where they have good grazing...

There is not fixed lst, so don't get disheartend. The more time you spend in class, the smarter you'll get.

Most importantly... keep an open mind... remember the fish are smarter than you and me combined. Your boredom is at stake, while he has his life to loose.

If you need more help, feel free to PM me...

Cheers,
IG


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indiangypsy wrote:
Most importantly... keep an open mind... remember the fish are smarter than you and me combined. Your boredom is at stake, while he has his life to loose.

Cheers,
IG


Very well said... :wink: :wink:


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:39 pm 
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hi I.G. thanks for the words of wisdom... :idea:

honestly ... i am aware of the nature of murrel ....

was just getting frustrated not having hooked into one yet...

as mentioned in most of my posts earlier its been months , ive been visiting really good spots in pune.... meeting with locals ... watching learing, etc etc.. :oops:

i really appreciate your invitation to p.m. you... i will most definitely take u up on your offer . :D


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:31 pm 
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Check out the following thread.

We used a spoon to catch murral.

http://www.indianangler.com/viewtopic.php?t=2061


I personally caught 6 decent size murral with this spoon.


Regards,

Salim


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