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 Post subject: Albino murrel ?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:11 am 
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Hi guys,

a few months back i had asked advice on catching murrel. On the advice of asif and owen i had ordered some frogs and on the advice of mysticmurrel i had ordered some mepps aglia no 3 and 4. The frogs seem to work when the weather is very hot and the mepps works when every other lure fails. Thank you guys :D .


The murrel in the first pic took my bronze eye frog with a huge splash and just stayed there even after setting the hooks. no fight nothing. i just reeled it in and the murrel followed with the frog held firmly in its mouth. a few days back i caught a murrel on a mepps no 3 which was very light in colour. looks like an albino to me. i am confused. can anyone tell me what sub speicies it is?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:09 pm 
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Hi Amir,
Very nice fish indeed. Keep it up mate.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:44 pm 
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Hi Amir,

Nice murrels. Do you fish the main canal or the smaller one? This is on the Kalol road right? I have given your phone no to Rahul . Hes a bt busy with his semester exams at the moment . Iam shure he'll call you.The light coloured murrel is interesting. Did you catch it from very shallow water?

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Thankyou alibhai,jeen.


jeen, this is the main canal near viramgam bypass about 50 km from ahmedabad. The water is not shallow but is extremely clear. You can see huge murrel and carp cruiseing in the canal from the bridge when the conditions are right. I am looking forward to meeting rahul and maybe learn something from him.


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 Post subject: Cool catch
PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:14 pm 
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Dr.aamir.

Great catch !
Can you tell some details of your bronze eyed frog :D

Which frogs did you buy ?

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Good show Doc! Thanks for sharing!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:27 pm 
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hi salim,
the frogs which i ordered from cabelas were dean rojas signature series bronze eye frog (colour-green+yellow), scum frog assorted box which includes scum frog poppers which are really great, bully wa river frog. If you are planning to use frogs, i would suggest you put 4 BB size steel shot or ball bearings in the hollow cavity. this would give extra weight for casting and they rattle when you give a jerk which seems to attract murrel. there is another method which i learnt from an old man who caught quite a few murrel by this method. You take a large treble hook and put a lump of wheat dough on the treble for weight. after that you take a brightly coloured deflated baloon (colour- preferably red or yellow)and put the treble inside the balloon and tie a string at the mouth of the balloon. now cast the balloon at a likely place and slowly retrive on the bottom. hopefully you should get a bite.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:46 pm 
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Thanks Dr. aamir

It was indeed a great info. By the way what was the size of frog ?

Thank again,

Tight lines
Salim


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Hi salim, they all come in one size.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:53 am 
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The man goes out and catches himself a huge murral and ...great murral start up mate! yup, those scum frogs are sure shot most days-except my last trip to WASI cottage- not a nibble in 3 hrs.
Dont expect a fight from mr. murral-wait a couple of seconds after he takes the frog , then strike , to set the hooks.I 've had murral throw my frogs- and a spoon last week-or he'll go into weeds and sulk! so alternate between frogs near weeds and lilly pads and mepps 3,4 and even 5 in clear, no snag water-seen a murrals mouth? its huge and will easily take a no.5 spinner.Dont think its an albino per se, regular channa, maybe a regional variation?lets see what the ol timers have to say...


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Hi Doc,

Great catch.. & nice info on the baloon thingy.

Cheers,
Madhur.


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Great going DOC,

Seems you have struck Murral Mania.

Agree with Eljefe. The lighter colored snake head may just be a regional variation. In Pakistan in Dams where the water is clear and void of weeds the Snake heads are lighter in color ( Hope to post a pic if i manage to catch one). But the snake heads that are found in Weedy, Marshy or stagnant water the coloration is much more darker.

I haven't witnessed an Albino Murrel as of todate but have seen lighter colored ones. :P


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Good Show Buddy....Keep it Up. :D ...

& Regds to Albino Murral....I agree with Doc....its a regular channa....
Color of the fish will also depend on the color of the water ,

Last week had been to Reservoir near Mysore & caught a few good size Murrals & striped snakeheads....All of them were surprisingly green :D in color......as the color of the water was also green coz of the large concentration of algae...,& have noticed in WASI lakes that the Female Murrals are comparatively light in color than the Males
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Great catch, congrats! :D


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 Post subject: Hi
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Great catch Mate :wink:


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Hi all,
a question or two.

when you use a frog do you let it sit on the surface of the water OR do you weigh it down to a certain depth with weights.

same question as above but for a spinner.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:56 am 
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Frogs should float. But you can vary the depth by adding a bit of lead to them. Loose lead beads are the best as they rattles inside the body creating more noise.

A frog that floats a bit deeper makes more noise when it is retrieved. But you should make sure that the head of the frog is above the waterline.

As a tip. After you cast wait for the ripples to dive completely. This could take up to 45 secs so be patient. Then jig the frog a bit and then wait some more. Then make your frog swim as erratically back to you.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:21 pm 
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Casting your frog on some weeds and then pulling it down is a better bet.

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ali.


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Thank you


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:00 am 
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angler_ali wrote:
Casting your frog on some weeds and then pulling it down is a better bet.

Regards,

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Completely agree! Getting your frog to 'hop' off some weed or hyacinth is the perfect plot. After it lands that's when you need to wait.


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