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 Post subject: What Tackle for Murrel
PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:36 am 
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Hi Guys,

Lets have some fun!! :lol:

What do YOU think is the best outfit for Murrel fishing? Please also mention what type of lures/methods you use.

Most of the fishing we guys in Hyderabad do for Murrel is with spinners - all the Hyderabad boys I know use the same lures on the Cauvery too.

My ideal combo is:

Rod - 7' Medium action/Casting weight upto 30 grams/Line rating - upto 12 lbs

Reel - Spinning Reel Line capacity 200 yards of 8 lbs mono

Lures - Most commonly used - Mepps Dressed Aglia # 4 & 5(silver).
Also Top water lures like the Jitter Bug
Frankly, when the Murrel are hungry they will take anything

I use 8 lbs line most of the time. However, if I'm fishing an area with a lot of cover or snags I change over to 12 lbs line. For fishing Top water lures in weeds I use 30 lbs Braid

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Good topic Marc. Damned if I know what is the best tackle for murrel but what I have at present seems to work well....when I cast in the right direction, that is. :mrgreen:

Rods: Shimano Beastmaster SBM210M or Shimano Convergence CVS-60M-2.

Reels: Shimano Symetre 4000RI or 2500RI

Line: Berkley Trilene Big Game 12 and 10 lbs. mono.

Lures: Mepps Agila Nos. 3, 4 & 5.

What weights do the murrel go to in Hyderabad?

Rustam


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CC / Rustam,

This may be an eye-opener for you...

Last year in Cauvery, I fished for the murrel for the first time (usually, my group is always hell-bent on the mahseer!). So George and I went down to the river at Bhimeshwari, with 7-ft rods, small spinning reels (Penn spinfisher 4400, Shimano Sahara 4000), 10-lb Maxima Chameleon.

We figured that the murrel, like many other snakeheads, would prefer structure/snags, so we thought we had better chances with snag-free lures instead of the recommended Mepps.

So I used a Mini Whacker spinner bait (a small version of the bushwhacker). Large spinnerbaits have too-large a hook which often pierce thru the snakehead's eyes...gory sight! And George was using, of all things, a small plastic worm.

In an hour of casting, we landed ten murrel, topped by George's 3-kg (6-lb) 'monster'!! It sure must be the largest murrel landed on lastic worm, hehe! Well, all those murrel are still swimming in the Cauvery, for we lreleased them all.

I guess the trick is to get among the structure, somethign the Mepps cant do. George's method was to sink the worm to the bottom, then drag it slowly back.

Hope this helps!

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HI guys,
since most of you guys are experienced anglers and I do find mention of "home made spinners", can we have a bit of advice on your fav spinners and how to make them?
For indian conditions, and based on your experiences, why dont we have some insights ? :D
I'm kind of thinking, would Bops be comfortable with a NEWCOMER section?
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Hi Asif, there's nothing wrong with asking newbie questions in any forum. I'm sure they'd be enough folks willing to help out. So fire away.

I would refer to my trusty old companion, The Complete Book of Tackle Making (Paperback) by C. Boyd Pfeiffer. It's just fab.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/155821 ... e&n=283155


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Hi Axx,
Try this link:
http://www.luremaking.com/catalogue/download_guide.htm

The usual disclaimers apply, and I do not have any business interest in this :)
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Thanks RK,
got it in hard copy and another couple of laaate nights :D
thought I should type and thank you before I end up with various embedded objects in my fingers! :oops:
Actually I have some old surgical clips and clamps which will serve the purpose admirably well in making metal lures-wish it was one of those cold delhi winters :D
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Dear Cauvery Cowboy,
You say you've seen someone's 12 kg murrel. My question (s) are:

1. Is this documented by reliable sources. Reliable.
2. Was it a "hold-the-fish-up-to-the-camera lens-so-it'll-look-big" type (so popular these days)

I only ask because my learned associates and myself have been on the trail of murrel/maral/channa for eons, have specialised in this pursuit to ridiculous lengths, and have never ever even heard of anything remotely that big. I heard of a guy catching an 8kg, but repeated requests for pictorial evidence have produced the usual hackneyed excuses.

Sitting here, 12,000 miles away from Hyderabad, I'm wondering if this is another single malt-induced tale that the denizens of the Nizam's Dominions are so (in)famous for. Please clarify.

Respectfully,

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Hmm, getting warm here :wink:

Just to add:

Channa species behave differently in different waters. In Malaysia, the biggest snakehead is the Toman (Giant Snakehead, Channa micropeltes), which can grow to 30 kg and beyond. I personally have seen one about 1.5 m. long. In Malaysia, this species is the numero uno predator. The current IGFA record for this species is 10-kg, but that's small compared to the sightings we have made.

During one of my trips to Cauvery, I actually spotted one C. micropeltes at Mysore Pool. I could swear that it was a toman. It was less than a kg. Funny, no one ever mentioned this fish, which probably means it's rare and small, in Cauvery River.

Second case in point: the striped or chevron snakehead (Channa striata) is usually small (1 to 2 kg.). The current IGFA record is 3.5 kg. , from a little tank pond. I landed one specimen, 6-kg, years ago, thinking that's the biggets ever. Until I came across a guy who landed a 12-kg monster!

What's my point? Well, it's possible for the murrel to attain big size given the right conditions. You'll never know!

But given the habit of us anglers, it needs proper photos and tape measures. Jimmy Houston once said:

The fastest growth rate of a bass occurs during the weekend, between the time it was landed on Saturday to the time the story comes forth in the office on Monday morning!

Kind regards,
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My Dear Mysticmaral,

Maybe you should change your handle to Cynicmaral or even s###stirrermaral.

I am not going to take the bait - I know you too well for that.

The 12kg murrel was caught by Nizam Saab sometime in the '70's and if he says he caught one, he did - I trust him implicitly. Also, as I said I have seen a 8 Kg fish caught by Subhan near Gali Borai.

Cheers,

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Hello MM,

You reinforce my point that we've all heard of big fish...any self-respecting ex-poacher ghillie will swear he's landed a 150lb masheer on handline. Those that have seen a 7kg+ maral are fortunate. There seems to be a threshold at 5-6 kg beyond which a maral is a real nugget.

A friend I fish with has offered a reward to the largest fishmonger in Hyderabad to call him if a 7kg+ maral shows up. Years later he's still waiting for the call. Another friend has driven hundreds of thousands of kms exclusively in search of maral water. As a result, we've bagged tons of maral but none beyond the threshold.

I've tried libations, superstition, promises of virgin sacrifice, and the best equipment on this or any other planet in the hope that the divinities will smile on me so I can get that beast. Well, there's always tomorrow.

Just for grins, I may post pictures of 5kg maral that look like world beaters because of the lying camera. Who says you can trust a picture?
Just ask the poor lads here who've invested in mail-order brides from the glorious ex-Soviet Union!!

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MysticM


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Hi guys,

Pics of 2 Murral caught on the Bhavani river. One i'm holding in my left hand weighed in at 12 kgs and the other at 11.5 kgs. They were weighed at mettupalyam a couple of hours after they were caught.
The pic quality is faded as it was taken about 20 yrs ago.



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Gordon,
20 years later the congrats are still as sincere.
Am a neophyte marral convert and, this is very enlightening
Great pics on the Andaman trip too
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Congratulations on these world record weights for Channa Marulius. In fact even the smaller of the two has substantially eclipsed the old world record.

I guess this teaches us Hyderabad maral guys a lesson: our Hyderabad area Channa may look as large but they're real lightweights as they weigh less than half of these fish.

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