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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:00 pm 
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Hi everyone,


Can somebody advise me about reinforcing knots in monofilament? do you apply some glue and if so what kind is best? Last sunday i lost a fish because a knot opened up :( .


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That adverstisement catching those fish with super glue is a joke !!!

Jude[/quote]


Hey jude,
he used fevi quick in the ad & not super glue.....btw, I'm still trying to figure out how/where he caught those kissing gauramis..... :lol:


aamir, if its mono line, the size of the line matters a wee bit, but more important, the number of turns you make while trying the hook.

I usually, actually almost always use the snell knot with @ 5 turns upto 0.5mm dia. I havent found the need to fish with anything thicker than that uptill now, so this is all I can share with you.

I also know that it is quite important to pull both ends of the line while tying the knot & besides that you have to make sure that you have pushed the line (knot) tight against the eye of the hook.

Btw, before pulling the knot really tight, it would help if you lubricate it a bit so that you dont over heat/stretch the line as that may cause failure. A little saliva would do just fine.


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No need for any type of glue on a knot Doc.
Keyur mentioned an important point that i forgot to add, which is about lubricating the knot before pulling it tight.
And that stop knot if done properly will save you a lot of grief.
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Check out the thread I have put out on fishing knots. Sorree for the delay. Try them out.


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Thanks Beemorein for the great post on knots,
Very informative.
Aamir,
I had this great cast in vembanad lake in kerala go haywire, as the knot slipped and a very decent DAM spoon went over the horizon :(
mono, will open up, as it will, when its called 'prolene' , in surgical practice too ! :evil:
-Some people do use CYN, others burn the end
-Whats imp is get the loops smooth, wet the knot/loops with saliva/water
-Even pressure on the tightening pull
-leave a longish tail and tie a knot in it -CLOSE to the main knot, to prevent main knot unraveling.cut off the rest...
-or 'if you're a smoker, burn the end to get a 'glob' and prevent unravelling.
-Forgot, i've been using nail varnish on the knot-Any one out there who knows better? havent had a problem ever...


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Hi,

I use a product called "Knot sense", to strengthen, and smoothen my knots. Is applied directly by fingers.

http://www.loonoutdoors.com/uvproducts.html



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So far I have never had a problem with knots opening out. For any mono or fluoro line, a snell knot would be more secure cos the lose end is passed through all the loops (turns) made on the hook.

In a stop knot, the end is passed through only the last loop & there are more chances of it slipping out. Thats probably why you would have to secure the end / mushroom it.

I was at Chua's place yesterday (tackle bloke....the guy from the forum who makes the rods) & he showed me a hook tying gadget that he got from Japan......same problem. He used fluorocarbon to tie a hook (the gadget creates a stop knot). The knot, if not pulled properly (in this case pliers) kept opening out.

So far I dont use pliers while tying the snell knot, but leave a little extra line so that I can hold it & pull it tight. Only important thing to remember is to lubricate the line. I learnt to tie this knot at the age of 4 & not had any problems so far.

dont know if everyone will carry pliers & cigeys to tie hooks.

Some may disagree with me regarding this take, but this is my personal experience & I stand by it.


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Thanks a ton alexis and makarand. the sites were very informative. hey asif pardon my ignorance but what does the nail varnish do?



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Shellac should do a better job than nail polish.


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Wear leather / working gloves while pulling a knot tied with braid (If you dont use pliers to tighten knots)......just had the braid slice through my had 2 days ago :cry:


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