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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:44 pm 
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Hi Guys,

First off the style of fishing where a Buffalo Horn rod is used was developed in Hyderabad specifically for Carp fishing and any other fish caught on this rod is purely by chance.

Description of Tackle
Rod:
The rod called a ‘sing ki chadi’ is made with a piece of bamboo approx. 10-12mm in diameter and about 18-24” long. It has a tip of about 10-12” made with the inner portion of a buffalo’s horn. The horn is tapered down from the base (where it is glued to the bamboo in a ferrule type fitting) to form a sharp point. The last inch or so of the tip is shaved into a very thin cylinder of about 1.5mm dia. making it extremely flexible. The butt of the rod ends at a knot in the bamboo making it slightly thicker than the rest of the rod.

Mainline & Terminal Tackle:
A length of 20lbs line (more on the length later) is whipped on to the tip of the rod with red silk thread making it more visible. The other end of the line is attached to a treble hook made by whipping together 3 spade end hooks of 2/0 size (more on this too later). A small piece of thin lead wire is wrapped on to the line about 1” above the hooks, this acts as a weight (5-6 grams) and also a seat for the paste bait. A marble sized ball of this paste is pressed on to the lead wire.

Silk line & Reel:
A thick silk cord is tied on to the butt of the rod ahead of the knot. This line (about 200 yards), which is of about 100lbs breaking strain is wrapped onto a spool called a ‘charak’. The charak is basically a used copper wire plastic spool attached with a long bolt to a wooden handle. The spool spins freely around the bolt.

Bait:
Most times the bait is pure rice bran (locally called ‘Konda’) made into a paste by kneading it with water. This paste does not hold together well and breaks up in the water if it is immersed for more than 20 min. However, if everything goes according to plan you do not need to keep it in the water for more than 2-3 min before you have a fish on.
Some of the old timers have their own secret recipes, basically mixtures of herbs, spices and oil cake that are added to the Konda.

Method of Fishing:
Site preparation:
After a suitable place is located on the bank of either a river or lake, a bloke is sent in to the water to check the bottom, which has to be flat, sandy or even have a bit of gravel. If the bottom has a lot of clay or slush, a few loads of gravel are dumped in and spread out and the lake/river bottom cleaned up. Ideal water depth should be about 6-10’ and the bottom either flat or gently sloping away from the bank. The idea being that the bait, which will rest at the bottom, should be easily visible to the fish. Also, the clean bottom will prevent the treble hooks from snagging.

Pre-Baiting:
Ground baiting is done with Konda twice a day for 5-7 days before the day selected to fish on.

Setting Up & Fishing:
After the angler takes his position on the bank the length of his mainline is decided upon depending on the distance from the tip of his rod to the spot on the bottom where he wants his bait to lie. Note: each angler fishes an area about 4-6 square feet only. After the bait lands in the desired spot the rod is pulled gently back till the line is taught. The angler then rests the rod on two stones while gripping the rear portion of the rod like one would hold a pen.

The objective is to have an absolutely steady rod with a tight line to the bait. At the slightest twitch of the sensitive rod tip the angler strikes upward with his arm held straight.

All Carp are bottom feeders and forage tail up. When a fish feeds or even twitches the line and if the angler strikes immediately the fish gets foul hooked in the lower jaw. Very often large fish after being hooked will head off into rocks and this is when the whipped trebles come in use – they cannot get snagged in the rocks as they fold and lie flat along the body of the fish. A regular treble can get caught in the rocks and tear out of the fish.

Landing the fish:
If the fish is small the angler plays it with the rod however, if the fish is large the rod automatically gets pulled out of the anglers hand (because of the grip)and he/she plays the fish by hand. The silk line is gripped between the fingers of the right hand and the charak is held in the left hand. A certain amount of drag can be applied by pressing down on the rim of the spool with ones thumb
I know people who have landed 60Kg Catla with this kind of set-up.

Conclusion:
The whole method and tackle may seem crude but believe me it is a very very effective and deadly method that has been refined and fine-tuned over the years. It is however a rather cruel method of fishing. Some of the old timers I have spoken to have told me that in the old days it was not uncommon to fill a jeep trailer with fish – all caught in one day by 5-6 rods.

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Hey CC,

Thanks for taking the trouble to put in this article.

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Thanks CC,
Ask and ye shall get !Holds perfectly good here...

Must be a very interesting method.Wonder if well get to see a pic of the sing ki chadi before it passes on into posterity?
Is this method still in vogue?
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Eljefe,

This method of fishing is still very popular here and most people who do a lot of carp fishing use this style only.

Another important point I forgot to mention - some of the best Carp fishing in this region is done in the rains when fresh rain water comes into the lakes and the levels rise. The carp come into the shallows to feed on all the refuse and scum. However, the Deccan plateau (Hyderabad region) gets very windy during the monsoons and on a windy day it is impossible to fish with a float. With the Sing ki chadi it does not make a difference how much wind there is because the rod tip is the indicator.

Some of the members were crying foul :wink:. Guys, remember some carp have extremely tiny mouths (for their size) and they will just not be able to injest a hook large enough to hold them.

Don't get me wrong, I am not justifying foul hooking but one must give credit where it is due.

A cruel method of fishing but extremely refined and bloody effective.

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Hi CC,

Well at least they're using a rod and line :-)


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“Them doctors is people” sure thing mate, now, if Sienna went TO the monastery there would not be an exodus, just a bunch of very happy n excited monks. Why don’t you ask her out on a fishing trip? Nothing to loose, at least you could say “I tried” and not have regrets for the rest of your life wondering “What if she said yes?”

You’re a fisherman, we all have those dreams…..go for it big guy. (and before you ask I don’t have her number or email address)

Hong Kong is literally the worst place in the world for branded rods they are grossly overpriced, they do not have Megabass rods here. Singapore is a far better place (even price wise) and they very well could have Megabass rods there. And if you are in the US and really want a good rod, I would actually have one made to order.

I had got some 200 rods made here and shipped them to India about 8 years ago, so I can get something like that done. But for what you guys are looking at I would think that something made to order would be a better option. Try mudhole.com the deal a lot in blanks etc, I had bought a Van Stall spinning reel from them and had it shipped to Hong Kong their prices were the best at the time.


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Hi Hawkeye,

Thanks for posting that link. Welcome to the forum and look forward to hearing about your angling exploits. What kind of fishing do you do?

I just went through the MSAA website and couldn't get past half a dozen pages. Saw a nice 19kilo catla. They need to seriously do something about those windows that keep popping up :shock: put me off the site in record time.

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Hi Hawkeye!
Very distressing piece of information. Is it true that masheer were once introduced into this lake ?
What news of the masheer in the streams of Khandala / Lonavala
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Hi MM,
Activate your pop-up blocker, that should help


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