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Hi Santhosh,
How deep does the Floating magnum swim. I have tried floating magnums in color red head, but I havent got any hit so far :(.
So i thought it could be because of swimming depth. I would give a try to jointed Bomber lures..

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Yo-Zuri Mag Minnow (Green Mackerel) [smilie=coolup.gif] , good casting, nice action & deadly on jacks. Always the first one to fly out when I go fishing.


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AS no one has answered the original question here it is the Rapala Mag CD 18 is a sinking lure and would go easily to 30 ft+ you can control it some by retrieving it fast but from the shore if the depth is only 10 to 15 ft it is not advisable to use as ii would like to snag . It is mainly a very good trolling lure for off shore thats what i have gathered any other input would sure be appreciated bobby , Santosh (the kings ) :?: :?:


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Hi Rajat,

I thought the replies from Santosh were fair enough, unless I missed something :lol:

You are correct this is more of a trolling lure but I do not see why you cannot spin with it. As a rule I use the Mags with metal lips for trolling and the plastic lips for spinning (Sinkers opposed to floaters) but you surely can spin with either.

However I prefer Yo-Zuri as they offer better casting balance.

But Binu, here's a couple of pictures from the old Magnum days of a 36lb Barra I caught on an Fluro Orange Floating Magnum spinning, proof that they do work :D , you can see the lure still on the Fish.






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Bobby i never say any where that Rapala magnum does not work or you can't spin with it. I was referring to specific lure in question (Mag CD 18) and i said that this one is a sinking lure which may not be preferable for spinning from the shore( oh you can spin with it from a boat in deep ocean sure :twisted: ) . I have quite a few Mag's and been spinning with them for a long time but as you said they all are floaters you see :D :D


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Wow thats a real huge fish Bobby :-) . I am sure rapala magnums work well, i got a huge hit from a cuda once, but lost the fish during strike itself.
thanks Rajat, i mainly used to fish from the shore, so couldn't use the lure. Tried a couple of casts with it, but was pretty sure that i would lose the lure to the submerged rocks in harbor in my next cast. But as you said it should troll well and i guess the Firetiger is also an effective color.
Would try trolling once i come back from my assignment


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Hi Guys,

Yes Rajat, knew what you were saying mate, was just having a wee bit of fun :-). Agree, I find a floating Mag better to spin with as well.

If I rememeber correctly, the only fish I caught on a Firetiger Mag was a Cobia. The reason most likely is I never used a fire tiger Mag that often.

I have caught Cuda, MJ and GT on a firetiger patern crystal minnow.

Binu, would you believe me when I tell you that that was the average size for a fish from that place and there was not a single time you went there and did not catch barra like that or bigger.

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Thanks Ali,

Hope this one is enough of motivation a 40lb and a 42lb barra :lol: (found one of my old albums):



Don't waste your time boys, the place is finished and that is one reason why places like that should be kept secret. There are people who have a complete disregard for animal life and lack angling decency. I do not have a problem taking anyone to any place I know, but I need to really know that person well enough to rely on their angling principles and be able rest assured that they will do the right thing. I have seen too many places destroyed because of people who just love to kill.

Binu I am an alien to the East Coast.


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wow wow [smilie=coolup.gif] [smilie=coolup.gif]
Bobby i think the places are getting destroyed or finished not because of any sport angling the local guys are more responsible for the over kill then any of us. Even if you keep a fish or two for the pot as i usually do (being bong and all) but it hardly makes any difference i think. How many times in a week a angler can go to fish even if you are damn lucky practically not more than once.

I have seen and asked locals they are out there every day without giving any thought to season, spawning time etc. you should see the the kind of nets they use. Some time i think they even take out salt particles from the sea. [smilie=cheeky-grin.gif] [smilie=cheeky-grin.gif]

Although i thoroughly respect the "angler's code" but if it is our code then why the hell we are so damn possessive about it. A person who would keep that code has to be a angler and only then he will abide by it . I think this code thing is really little over rated and we are just possessive about these spots like a small boys as Ali would say . We just don't any one else to catch fish in our spot as if one could finish the entire population of fish by our method of fishing . :wink: :wink:


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Hi Rajat,

Taking one or two fish is fine by me, but this very spot has seen anglers take 6 - 7 large barra like these, all killed in a day or two. It is a place that cannot be netted and never has because of the currents but anglers killed it because they were irresponsible. There are two kind of spots, one were fish dwell and the other where they visit, feeding beats or what ever. The former can be finished out easily by irresponsible angling, nets block access more than take fish like Barramundi.

I don't blame guys like Santosh and Fred for being secretive because they have seen it happen. It has got nothing to do with being selfish. You need to get on the circuit and in due course people will take you as they get to know you better. Let's be honest no one in their right mind will post something like this on an open forum.

You also need to understand that there are some guys who invest a hell of a lot of time, money and hard work scouting for new places to fish, after all that work it is not fair if someone who just ‘tags’ along gets careless. I know people who take a lot of care to hide their catches from locals because of netting, (why Devgad got screwed because of just that). Then there are some who love to show off their catches and even sit down to educate the locals, give them tackle, lures even. There’s nothing against being generous but you need to appreciate the consequences of your actions. These locals will take 100% almost daily big small it does not matter, they live there and have much, much more time than you.

For me I do not have the time to go and scout for new places individually any more because of where I reside, recently I am the one who tags along but I need to respect the persons wishes who has taken me to a certain place and showed it to me.

There are a couple of places in Bombay where I stop fishing when any local netters are about, I also release 100% of my catch there because I do not want any one of these netters to know that there are fish there.

I know some of you guys will not appreciate what I am saying, but that’s the way it is.






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Bobby i must make it clear that I was not naming anybody specifically.
Indeed I have not experienced some of this first hand because in the last year I have been pre occupied with my other interests and have refused many offers to go fishing. I definitely understand the need to protect fishing spots and no: I do not expect them to be disclosed on open forums :roll:

At the same time I hear of what goes on, hiding of locations from fellow anglers and "friends", guys who would find it difficult to even visit the places once a month.Making posts misleading fellow anglers by lying about the location probably resulting in the poor guys wasting their time and money (and precious vacation time) at the wrong spots. An honest "location not to be disclosed" would be so much better.

I guess I probably don't understand all this since I am not as "passionate" about angling as some of the others here. To me it is all about spending time with nature away from our urban chaos in the company of friends(optional) and if I catch the occasional fish ,great.

If this pleasure is going to marred by obsessing about who is coming along,bitching, back biting then I guess there are better things to do 8)

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Yaj, Buddy...I know you did not mention any one specifically. Rajat, Santosh, Fred, Ali they all know each other and are constantly pulling each others legs.

Mate I can understand how you feel about being mislead, that is wrong, I would rather be told it is a secret rather than be sent on a wild goose chase. It has happened to me as well so you are not alone :lol: please do not get me wrong FYI I myself has only fished twice last year so you must be better off than that for sure.

I was only trying to explain why people keep some angling locations secret.


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I think, this discussion is very useful and pertinent but is veering towards wrong direction. No one has a right to demand that the other discloses his location to other angler. It is also not binding to an angler to always include someone else while going fishing. No one hides a location from a trusted friend but to demand that every one make public all the spots on a forum is not correct.

I do not think that I or Santosh had ever refused any help to any angler from Mumbai or some one visiting Mumbai but if someone thinks that it is our duty that we oblige each and every one then he is wrong. It is solely our discretion that we include any one or not while going fishing.

As per as I am concerned, I will never lie to any one if I am going fishing with some one else and will never mind if someone does not want to go fishing with me.

Guys, lets give each other some space. [smilie=coolup.gif]

Bobby, stop posting such nice photographs otherwise I will choke. :roll: :cry: :twisted:

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Yes mate, butchers. Anyway, another secret Barra :lol:


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