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The locals are the best bet to find out where, when and what the fish bit on.

The lighter line you use the better feel you get and there is less water drag on it so you feel the bites better. Remember: fish light for the HOT bite.

Fresh or if possible, live bait will alwasys help you catch more fish. Live worms prawns or nippers produce best results.

Fishing the mouths of estuaries on the runout tide produces excellent results as the predators wait for the tide to sweep all the tasty morsels in therir direction.

Fishing at jetties on the high tide produces best results as the high water allows fish to swim up the high spots on the plyons and other fish that eat them follow.

Dont ever over use ground bait. If they are full up they wont take your bait.

Do clean up after you`ve finished so people dont slip on old bait, line etc.

Wear spiked shoes - I was told old golf shoes are perfect - when fishing slimy rocks. Never fish the rocks alone. Do wear a life jacket at all times when fishing from a boat. Its just as easy to dwon in 2 mts. of water as it is in 10!

Kill your fish quickly. It`s humane and they are much better to eat when they have been bled.

Take a camera with you. Have you ever noticed that the best fishing moments always seem to happen when you dont have one? Aw! [smilie=holyshit.gif] you should have seen the one I caught!

Dont handle a fish that you are unfamiliar with, there are lots of hidden spike on some that can do damage.

Dont return freshwater karnatic carps, african/catfish etc to the water live. They are a noxious pests that must be killed on sight.

Dont store you fishing lines where they will be in direct contact with sunlight. Ultraviolet radiation in sunlight weakens fishing lines.

Dont hurry the fish you have hooked. Take your time. Most fish are lost by hooks pulling and line brreaking through the angler`s impatience.

Dont ever turn your back on the sea when rock fishing. There zre rogue waves that have a habit of looming up when you least expect it and rock fishing is the most dangerous sport on Earth!

Lastly? Dont drink alchol. Booze and fishig jut dont mix, there are too many sharp things lying around inviting trouble.


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Hey Bobbee,

What's a nipper? Sounds interesting.


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I suspect that a "Nipper" is a smal crstacian sometimes called "Bass Yabbie" by the Aussies.

I'm a little concerned about the imperitive to kill all carnatic carp though as they're a native species. African catfish, tilapia and others I could understand though.


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Have to add a few important ones.

Never pick up somebody else's rod when it gets a bite. However good a friend the person might be.

Don't leave fish to go find fish.

If a plug/bait/spot is not working change it.

And!!!

Never ever think you are smarter than a fish.


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Ken,
That was- A Turtle, not a fish mate ;) So, no sweat!!! Thanks for not hooking him!


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Thanks Doc. That makes me feel better... or does it?


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Sualeh.
I can see that you're still not convinced.
I would suggest that the situation with Gooch in North India and Pakistan is somewhat similar to the situation with pike in Europe.
Both are big toothy ambush predators so removing the big ones will mean more prey fish for everyone to catch, right ? Well actually, no !
Here's a little light reading for you concerning pike - but substitue the species concerned with local ones and you might se where I'm comming from.
http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/Coarse-Fish ... _pike.html


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Pike are predominantly ambush predators and they mainly target prey that is some way weak through age, injury or disease. They will usually attack from the cover of weed or structure but will on occasion hunt activly. I would suggest that there are significant similarities with the goonch but rather than structure, the goonch appears to use the bottom as it's main source of cover. Both have a mouthfull of fish grabbing teath and both are relativly large compared to the popuation of prey fish that they feed on. I would suggest that whilst there are differences but as both are apex predators with somewhat similar strategies, we can consider them to be similar enough to apply what we know of the place of one species in it's ecosystem to the place of the other in its.

It's interesting to see what happened in places like Ireland's Lough (Lake) Corrib where there were some very large pike and an active salmon and trout fishery. The people controlling the lough decided to try to increase the survival rates of young trout and salmon by culling the pike with gill nets. The result was that the local community immediatly lost income from the pike anglers that had previously travelled to fish the lough and over the next few years, the explosion of small pike totally devastated the trout and salmon fishery, which is only now starting to recover as the large pike re-establish themselves.


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Even if Goonch were introduced by Fisheries Dept in upper Indus, i dont think they would have flourished because the water is too cold for Goonch up there.
Goonch are ferocious predators, also known as freshwater sharks. Best is to use a live bait. They also come on lures (plugs, soft plastic lures of large size). But they wont normally take anthing which is static. Come on moving objects only. I have seen people using almost a half kg fish as a bait to catch large size goonch. A frind of mine caught 29 kg goonch using a parri of about 10 inches as bait.


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[/quote]As for feeding predatory fish, wouldnt they do well on commercial trout pellets? Or even animal offal ground up with regular commercial fish food.

As far as feeding predatory fish like Sol/Singhara/ Mulley is concerned I think yes Ali has a valid point Food Pellets used for Trout can be tried and animal offal can also be another option. I say this because it has always been sucessful in attracting singhara/Mulley by ground baiting the area with can of punctured Dog food. :lol:

But the main Problem of fish farming in pakistan is that getting the fry/small fish of the predatory species is a big problem. The fisheries only provide fry/fish seed of the carp family and I thin you can only get Masheer fry from selected fisheries, The hatchery ar Hattian Kamran has managed to sucessfully breed Masher.

As far as Goonch on lures as far as I am aware goonch are the more bottom predator type. Never heard of them being caught on lures, but as Sualeh has mentioned goonch on live bait is more common..... :P


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Shaphan, i absolutely agree with you on the behaviour of fisheries dept. Mahseer fry is aval on commercial scale from Attock/haripur hatcheries.
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They also breed mahseer at a fish farm in Timergara in Dir.

If warmwater fish would survive the winters up in my neck of the woods I'd be the first one to stock up a lake full of mahseer, singhara and sowl, but alas when the ponds freeze over Katlas and rohus die, I dont think teh predators would fare any better.

common and silver carp are able to survive through the winter though.


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There's me thinking that the Mahseer do very well in cold glacier fed rivers in the north where the winter air temperatures get distinctly chilly - certanly cold enough to have me shivering in Delhi in January.


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You are right Ken but the area that Ali is talking about freezez in winters. Mahseer can not survive in a freezed lake or stream. Only trout and snow carp can (talking of northern areas of Pakistan)
Ali, there is a recent trend of raising mirror and leather carps (strains of european common carp) in the northern areas and its getting quite popular. As you metioned, these carps survive fairly well during freezing winters.
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