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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:13 pm 
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Okay Big Boys,
After a strike of a BIIG Fish (may all your wishes come true) most of us have read about screaming lines and then, tighten the drag and the fight begins.
Another school of thought says, keep drag on tight right from the start and fight your fish in from the word go...
Given the state of space age materials available for fishing today, what woukd you agree on?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:32 pm 
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Okay first of all I am not one of the Big Boys. Pretty short and in now way in the same league as some of the other people here. But I have had my share of break offs and I remember each one of them as if they just happened. (That brought tears to my eyes).

So the question tight drag vs. loose drag. I think the the loose drags is a better method for a few reasons.

1. The fish is not in the danger of being hurt that much. Especially in fasts water. To the angler a tight drag gives a better and harder hit but it does the same for the fish.
2. with a loose drag the fish takes out more line. and the fight lasts longer.
3. I have seen fish just barely hooked, a little more than skin, being landed. This is not possible with a tight drag.
4. with a lose drag you set the drag according to te weight of what you have hooked and not what you want to hook.

And lastly with a loose drag them big mahseer don't have a chance to straighten out those flimsy rapala hooks that you were to lazy to change.


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Rule of thumb is that your drag should be 20 - 25% of your lines breaking strain. So if you have 10lb line your drag should be set at about 2.5lbs pressure. I only use a scale to set my drag on my big-game reels with other reels I just "feel" for the correct drag setting.

"Leverage" plays a huge role when with your drag setting. E.g. If have 10lb line on reel and set your drag to 5lb pressure with a full spool, then with that same drag setting with half a spool of line the drag setting will be 10lb. because of the reduced diameter of the spool. So if you hook into a large fish and she runs taking away little more than 1/2 your line and exerts more pressure than 10lbs after that the line will snap.

The beauty of tiring a fish out faster is estimating the max drag setting and loosening it as the spool empties out thus exerting the max pressure you can on a fish from the start of the fight. This is why lever drags are so advantageous.

I am not recommending anyone do this unless you are really good with your drag settings and know your reel really well. It is very tricky with stardrags. Best thing is to set your drag 20 - 25% breaking strain of the line.


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To me drag settings are different for different types of fishing.

If it is at the lakes, i give the fish plenty of line to run, besides powering fish with soft mouths with small hooks spells disaster.

In the river i invaribly load my reels with 40lb mono, and depending on how much room there is in the channel, or how far i can afford to let the fish run before it hits the rapids i set the drag accordingly.

Once he enters the rapids, you have no choice but to slacken off on the drag, and only put the minimum possible pressure on the fish or he will break you on the sharp rocks.

There are no 2 similar settings that will work on a fast flowing river, each location needs careful thought. The only time i use a stereo type setting is when the rod is on a stand and the reel on bait runner(multiplier), but even then you need to have your drag correctly set so that when you switch from bait runner to drag, there is no huge jerk that can break something of pull the hook free.

After 15 breaks on 40lb mono, i am still searching for the perfect drag setting. :?


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I've got bites!
Thanks Bobby and OB.


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Im with Neil on this one..


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I have read somewhere when fishing for groupers, if the fish is allowed to get into his hide out then he is a history. In such case it is told to keep the rod tip high with a tight drag and tire the fish with the bent in the rod. i.e. Not to pull the fish hard and also not to let him run, but with the bend in the rod and gradually keep gaining the line and bring the fish to the surface.

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