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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:51 am 
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here is the basic rig
attach a 55gm twisty then attach a small 6-8 inch steel leader and then attach a soft plastic either minnow or squid jig on a single j hook without any weight.


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while using this rig at the rocks targeting the fish at the bottom while jigging the spoon makes contact with the bottom but the plastic floats just above so your hook never gets stuck in the rocks. while retrieving for swimming the rig the spoon will impart action into the soft plastic which will be equivalent of you giving constant twitches to the plastic.
the idea is to make it appear as two bait fish swimming .
note the spoon has many advantages as it will impart action into the plastic improve distance . the steel leader is used because of its rigidness
any comments on the rig would be appreciated .


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Hi

I have a twisty (55gms), if you can please upload the pic of the whole rig.

The twisty has never worked for me, maybe this will help.

Tight Lines


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You haven't said whether you're removing the original hook from the "twisty" lure.
If you are then when it gets hit by a big fish, there are no hooks in it's mouth - they are 6-8 inches away behind the lure.
If you're leaving the hooks in place then the reduced snagging claim is invalid.
There are occasions where stinger hooks are useful because fish are consistently striking short from behind but i have to say that a lot of the time, barra tend to strike from below and get caught up on the belly hooks of a conventional plug.

Another variation of this that was popular a few years back was to tie a small fly or soft plastic ahead of your main lure. some folks interpreted this as looking as though your main lure was chasing the teaser giving you the opportunity to catch either predators that wanted to eat the main lure or those that would compete with your main lure to nail the fly.
In some situations, people reported very good results with this kind of rig (usually where the target predators were fixating on very small baitfish) but I have to say that even with small flies as teasers, the reduction in casting distance was dramatic and both in India and when bass fishing in the UK, i found that this actually reduced my catches not only because distance is important on the venues that i fish but also because longer casts mean a slight increase in the proportion of my total fishing time that my lures are actually in the water fishing.


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the hook on the spoon has to be reduced . I dont think the barra would take the spoon but the soft plastic and the rig is intended to be fished at the bottom so the point of barra taking the lure from underneath is very less plus the soft plastic is weightless so it will always float and will be infront of the predatory fish .
For casting problem I intend to use casting egg style nail to place the soft plastic on this eliminates the helicopter effect . still casting distance of the spoon will get reduced but not much.
no one in this forum has ever caught any barra on a twistys alone the purpose of the spoon is to act as a weight which swims
the soft plastic is not small but of similar size it is intended to mimic two bait fish


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by the way thank-you ken for replaying.have you evey encountered barra being caught on spoon just curious?


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has anyone used tube lures? i think they'll work really well for all predatory fish. anglers have been catching barras and cudas with it. i think they'll work for murrels too.

basically around 6-8 inches of surgical tubing or a catheter is taken. a 2 inch bevel is cut at one end to form the tail. then a long shank single or treble hook is attached to a leader and swivel and passed through the tubing and a cheap effective lure is ready. you can attach an egg sinker to get some casting distance

surgical tubing




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@kashaif

Sounds like your Twisty is a bit heavy at 55gms for the area.

May I suggest you downsize to say 20-30gm size Twisty and see
what happens? You may snag less often and quite large fish can still be
caught on these sizes.

If you can try the remoter beaches or even the nearer ones early in the morning( before the crowds build up), you should have a better chance at
catching something.

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