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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:29 pm 
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Hi Guys,
I was practicing on improving the casting distance last weekend and found that no matter how much i try the casting distance would be around 25-30 feet. i was using 8ft spinning reel, with 20lb mono line (0.35mm dia). The plug used would weigh around 14grams.

What would be the max distance that we can achieve using this outfit ?
How can i improve the distance?

I went through other posts regarding this and most of it suggest increasing the weight of the lure, but most of the lures in my collection generally weighs around 10-25gm range.As always advice from you guys are much appreciated and valued :)
Thanks in Advance.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:48 pm 
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What Spinning rod are you using?

Many a times if the rod is too stiff distance gets compromised. Also use a 10 or 15 lb line with that you can increase the distance a fair bit.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:18 am 
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If you switch to 20 lb. braid (instead of mono), you should get an improvement in casting distance immediately.

As Christopher Rodrick has mentioned, casting distance is also dependent
on the type of rod used.

I am using an Ugly Stik of 6ft. length,medium action and capable of handling
4-8 kgs. line (apprx. 9-17lbs. line) for casting a Mann +5 lure which weighs
about 10-12 gms. for my light fishing requirements.

Using a size 4000 reel (Stradic CI4 model) and 10lb. test braided line, this outfit rips out the lure to 80 ft. without any problem.

This enables one to make literally hundreds of casts in a day without any
undue stress on one's casting arm.

So, please try to BALANCE your outfit along the lines advised and we are sure you will get the desired result.

Feel free to ask any other questions that you may have.

Regards,
Kingfish


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:33 pm 
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Hi Thank you guys for your replies.
@Christopher Rodrick
Am using Abu garcia cardinal bruiser combo .
specifications are
model: BRS82MH
8' MH Spinning
1-5 oz lure,10-25 lb line
model: BR40B

Reel specifications are
Lbs/Yrds
18/215 ,20/170,30/120
mm/m
0.45/195,0.50/155,0.60/110

@kingfish
considering my rod,reel and line specifications, would u consider my outfit to be balanced ? or should i switch to braid as u had mentioned?

BTW video links to casting techniques would be a HUGE help...
Thanks again guys....


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:44 pm 
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Braid should make the difference. You should be able to get 70-80 ' on your setup. The distance you achieve does matter on weather conditions as well. With wind blowing try side cast (will need some practice) mind the anglers on the sides as well.

Its not the distance you achieve that matters but the place where you need to cast. There are time I was casting miles and fish was caught in the first 10 ' perimeter.

Cheers - DeZZ


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:22 pm 
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1 ounce is approximately 27 grams. your rod has a minimum rating of 1 ounce, hence you cannot load the tip with weights less than 1 ounce. Unless the tip is loaded you wont get proper casting distance. choose a proper rod according to the lure weights, which will improve casting and handling.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:02 am 
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Angling4Fun wrote:
Hi Thank you guys for your replies.
@Christopher Rodrick
Am using Abu garcia cardinal bruiser combo .
specifications are
model: BRS82MH
8' MH Spinning
1-5 oz lure,10-25 lb line
model: BR40B



Buddy your rod is too stiff 1 - 5 oz is way too stiff. I would rather prefer 1/4 oz or 3/8 oz to 1 1/2 oz at the most for specifically spinning purpose.

Cheers,

Chris


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:40 am 
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The outfit that you have is definatly on the heavy side for a 14g plug and the heavy mono isn't going to help but you should still be able to cast in excess of 30m with no problems.

I would suggest that you set the plug aside for a while and clip on a weight of about 50g and practice casting slowly with that for a while until you get used to the feel of the rod loading up and when to release the lure as you cast. When you get it right, drop down to a smaller weight. The rod will bend less and you'll have to cast faster to load it but working things out should be a lot easier once you've had a play with the bigger weight. When you're OK with the lighter weght, try the plug. Again, the rod will feel less loaded and it'll be a little harder to judge the release time but you'll get there.

Steer clear of braid for the moment because it's expensive and it needs a little line management practice to prevent it from tangleing.
Just stick to mono but make sure that your spool is correctly loaded to within about 3mm of the lip.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:26 am 
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Your outfit is not suitable, in my opinion, for casting lures much under 1 oz.(which equates to 28 gms.).

You will certainly get a better distance with braided line, provided you are familiar with using it (see what Ken L says about braid).

If you persist with using the present setup with light lures, you will soon weary of casting and start to lose interest.

The suggestions to get a lighter outfit, to cast those lures ranging in weight from 10-14 gms.,by Christopher Rodrick and h-venkatesan make eminent sense.

In the long run , investing money in such an outfit will give you pleasure in
fishing and it will also be very comfortable to use .

I am not sure if you wish to budget for such an outfit. In case you do,
you will get some good advice from fellow anglers.

Regards,
Kingfish


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:53 am 
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As usual, wonderful pieces of advice from the gurus, thanks a lot guys. These are the things that keep ppl like me coming back to the forum.
As ken had mentioned,will try to practice my casting with a heavier weight and then slowly move towards a lighter one, after perfecting that i would either go for a lighter outfit or more heavier lures that would suit my tackle.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:45 pm 
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Try reducing the drag


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:51 pm 
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Rjm wrote:
Try reducing the drag

Reduce drag for wat?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:53 pm 
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Rjm wrote:
Try reducing the drag


And how will that help !!

Ali. :roll:


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:55 pm 
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Rjm wrote:
Try reducing the drag

:o :roll: :roll: :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:25 am 
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i think RJM has misundrstood "drag" with something else.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:55 pm 
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Rjm wrote:
Try reducing the drag


Hey RJM,

hope u get a rough idea.

I lower the bail arm to cast, not the drag.

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We use the drag while playing with the fish. Where different drag levels are set for different type of fishes.
The gurus will give u a better idea on it.

Below is a pic of a baitcaster
Here u dont hav ur bail arm but instead there s a thumb bar to release the line.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:13 pm 
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dmelloralf wrote:
Rjm wrote:
Try reducing the drag


Hey RJM,

hope u get a rough idea.

I lower the bail arm to cast, not the drag.

Spinning Reel
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We use the drag while playing with the fish. Where different drag levels are set for different type of fishes.
The gurus will give u a better idea on it.

Below is a pic of a baitcaster
Here u dont hav ur bail arm but instead there s a thumb bar to release the line.
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I am extremely sorry..thought that tighter drag released less line of the spool while casting.Thanks for explaining!


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