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 Post subject: Wire leaders !!!!!!
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:30 am 
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Hi ,
I wanted to know if wire leaders could be used with a braided line( / or are better ????) while plugging around the rocks .... so far have only tried a couppla feet of heavy mono as shock leader with braid ..... using a swivel to join them ....
My question was ....if i were to use a pre rigged wire leader with braid ....will it be better than using a heavy mono ( 40-50 lbs mono ) as shock leader
Setup being used :
line is 25 lbs braid ....mono shock lead of 18- 24 inches
any inputs on wire leaders vs mono leaders with braid ?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:18 am 
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Tying a wire leader directly to braid is a surefire recipe for losing your lures
(no give in either braid or wire leader) and believe me I have lost a few.

I now join the braid to a mono leader to act as a cushion and attach the mono to a wire leader when fishing in situations where the fish have sharp teeth that will cut through the mono (typically tailor or bluefish as they are called in the US)... it works and the lures stay attached.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:15 pm 
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Thanks for the spot on reply King . i was worried about lack of strech on braid+ wire leaders ( losing lures is always painfull subject)..... however braid + Mono + wire leader seems logical enuff ....( i dont think a wire leader is nessesary in india unless one is targeting cuda:s or toothy fishies )

Conclusion : Using wire leaders with braid involves a lot of knots....so will be sorting out that first .....

Braid + mono shock seems to be the way to go for now !


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:22 pm 
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wire leaders are used to avoid getting cut on the sharp rocks when fighting a big fish very rearly fish swallows the whole lure for it teeth to cut the leaders thats my exp


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:53 am 
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I have stopped using braid+mono+wire and now only use braid+mono leader, because its more simpel and i land more fish, since i stopped using wire i have only lost a couple off fish were i`m sure
the fish has bitten my mono over but i havent lost any fish too faulty line/leader setup.

søren


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:40 pm 
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@ daddy

I agree.

There are several scenarios where the fish will/can cut the mono shock leader.

When I was catching freshwater pike in Canada, the relatively small spoons (Dardevles)
used could be easily swallowed by the large mouth of the pike and its teeth would be able to reach the mono and bite through it.

In sea fishing, sometimes you have to "match the hatch" and in the case of
tailor (bluefish) I have had to sometimes use lures which are only 1-2 inch
long - easily swallowed by the fish and its teeth being razor sharp will
cut a mono leader.

Thirdly, barramundi are famous for using their very sharp gillrakers to cut through
mono leaders - here one has to use a heavy (30-40lb) mono leader to
avoid cutoffs and a wire leader is not used for presentation purposes.

Ideally, use as small a length of wire leader that you can get away with where needed because the fish seem to shy away from them if too large.

Kingfish


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:01 pm 
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I will prefer not to use wire leaders except while trolling. In case of trolling, you can easily join wire leader with Braid line.

If you are spinning, using mono/ Floro leader is much better option. In case, i am targeting fishes from rocky places, I use twisted mono leaders and it works very fine. In case of sand bars or open space, max 40 lb of Floro or Mono is enough to land the fish. Presentation wise, wire leaders are worst and the strike ratio goes considerably down.

Regards,

Ali. :D


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:23 pm 
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Thanks to all of you for sharing your views and the advice its realy been helpfull.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:00 am 
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angler-ali,

What are your thoughts about using braid vs. mono for trolling?

Several writers have mentioned that because braid does not stretch, it is
easy to rip the hooks out of a fish's mouth if one sets the hooks when it
initially strikes a trolled lure.

They ,therefore, are proponents of using mono for trolling. The stretch
in the mono cushions the strike by the angler.

Of course, the advantage of braid over mono is the larger amount of similar test line that one can spool onto the reel, giving you extra capacity when
fighting strong running fish such as spanish mackerel (kingfish),wahoo and tuna.

I have used both and not found any difference. No doubt using (and losing !)
mono is a lot cheaper than braid , especially when you have to use a large amount of line on the trolling reels.

Do you use mono as backing when trolling?

Regards,
Kingfish


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:24 am 
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kingfish wrote:
angler-ali,

What are your thoughts about using braid vs. mono for trolling?

Several writers have mentioned that because braid does not stretch, it is
easy to rip the hooks out of a fish's mouth if one sets the hooks when it
initially strikes a trolled lure.

Kingfish


There is the other point of view that hook set is not proper due to stretch in mono. I use only braid while trolling (Which I dont do any more because I do not enjoy trolling), with wire leader/ floro leader (120 Lbs). The trick is to keep drag just more than the draft on the lure. Lever drag reels are best while trolling. For big ones, I use TLD.

Regards,

Ali. :P


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