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What is the best bait for novice anglers to use in South India's fresh water bodies
Spoons 18%  18%  [ 4 ]
Lures 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Live Bait 77%  77%  [ 17 ]
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 4:25 pm 
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Hi Gang!

I'm shamelessly looking for some free education - Like I mentioned I'm not a pure breed angler - ive graduated (very slowly) from ponds to lakes and streams to rivers and from bamboo rods (no reel) and earthworms to rods and reels....so I'm hoping I can get some quick knowledge on the following;

a) when does one use lures?
b) when does one use spoons?
c) when does one use flies?
d) when does one use live bait?

Now keeping the above in mind - In India (especially the south) when and where and for what fish would one use what bait?

So technically while fishing for tilapia in a river/lake what would I use? what about cat and murrell - or for that matter carp?

Also some tips on weights and floats - distance from hook etc?

Looking forward to feedback on fishing 101 - Thanks and Appriciate all the knowledge it shall be used judiciously :)


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Clive,

The answers to your above questions are the real code of angling and a life time of experience is not enough to answer it. We can only suggest some general rules. The choice of Live bait vs Lure vs Spoons Vs Fly (You have left out Spinners, Poppers and Jigs) actually does not exist as far as fish is concerned. These are different style of fishing techniques and you can target same fish with equal success by using above mentioned techniques.

The logical conclusion theoretically should be that live bait should work best as all other artificial baits are but imitation of live bait but many a time you will find that artificial lure produce much better result than the live bait.

There are some established patterns and for start you should stick to them. I am listing below some of the fishes and established method of Target them ,

1- Talapia, Khawli and Mirgal Small J-Hooks with earth worm/ Atta / Larva etc. Place your hooks 4-6 inches above the bottom.

2- Rohu
Medium Round-Hooks With Atta and place your hooks on bottom.

3- Catla and Silver carp
Dont even think of targeting it . :P

4- Malli
Spoon and Spinners work best but you can use live baiting for it Also. The conventional method is bolt rig with a 6-0 to 8-0 size hook and rotten fish as bait.

5- Murrels
You can target them by almost all the methods but Spinners and Soft bait (Frogs) works best. You can live bait a frog around the edges of weed etc.
They are also known to prefer crabs but live baiting of crabs is very complicated.

6- Mahseer

Almost all north mahseer are caught on Spoons, lures, spinners or softies but In southern parts this fish is caught on Ragi or live baiting. You can live bait for them with Chilwa or Crab. Some time good mahseer is also caught on Atta (Yellow Colored) as bait.

7- Trouts

Small spinners or Flies are the most successful methods but the purist amongst the angler community will only accept flies. :roll:

There are many more fishes (I have not even started salt water) and many more techniques to target the above mentioned species but as I said these are the general rules.

In case you want to target any specific fish, feel free to ask.

Regards,

Ali.


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And yes, I am not casting my vote as all the methods mentioned (Except Fly fishing which I have not tried till date) are equally successful to me.

Regards,

Ali.


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What is really nice is the time you took to answer my questions, after I posted my questions i actually found interesting info on many of my questions on earlier posts and found myself thinking "for sure someone is going to comeback and tell me to navigate through the discussions and find my answers" but I was plesantly surprised at not just the reply but the detail in it....you folks are truely interested in promoting the interest and passion for fishing.....thanks Ali!


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I was watching you DADA :)

Good one Ali. I dont think anyone could have given a better answer.
Clive: In short your time spent fishing will teach you more than anything else, just like what I do whist at work :) PM me your email ID and I will send you some literature that could perhaps help you.

DeZZ


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There was this instance when we were fishing at night at the harbor. Four guys fishing and we caught nothing. We used prawns and squid without a single hit. So I decided to practice my casting with fly fishing. With the light provided by a street light I casted and caught around 30 Dory snappers & garfish in 2 hours. Others who dint know about fly fishing thought it was some kind of black magic!!! :roll:


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Thanks for all the suggestions gentlemen or fishermen (whichever you prefer to be called)

Had a great day fishing for Rohu the other day at a lake in bangalore - caught my fisrt fish on a reel and rod - used to be a bamboo-float-earth worm type till the forum came along!

We used a bait of bread mixed with a paste that Chris called "Calcutta Masala" any alternatives for Rohu other than Calcutta Masala


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Tried WD40 on mackerel [smilie=blush.gif] - didn't make a blind bit of difference that day, still blanked it. Buddies (you know who you are) threatened to report me for marine polution.

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