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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 11:23 am 
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I just got back from 5 day Singapore trip last night. I had to go down to the tackle shops to pick my Son a good spinning rod, which I did and while at it I just could not resist picking myself an Apache GT popping rod. Though I did not have to, this rod just drew me to it and I could not help my-self left the shop with a wallet slightly lighter.




This shop caters/specializes to GT popping they have several self manufactured GT poppers that they sell there and these lures are not cheap. Another thing that caught my eye was this Daiwa Saltist reel, I almost picked this one up and the only thing that stopped me was the fact that it was made in China. I discussed this with the shop-owner, himself who seemed to be a Saltiga fan, (he is into GT popping as well) and explained the problems and insecurities I had about Chinese made reels, he told me that this reel is really good it has top quality parts however he did not insist and he realized he was talking to someone who knew what he was talking about and was not aggressively putting the hardiness assurance across but he did say you should not have a problem with this reel. Anyway it features a 15KG drag (where as a Saltiga has a 30KG drag) the reel features Aluminum Alloy Body, Sideplate & Rotor, features include:
• 6.2:1 High Speed Gear Ratio
• Digigear Digitally designed stainless and bronze alloy gearing
• 5 Corrosion Resistant Ball Bearings and 1 Roller Bearing
• Manual Bail Return
• Bail Locks during casting
• Airbail Tubular Stainless Steel Bail
• Machined Aluminum Handle
• Waterproof Drag and Body
• Forged Aluminum Spool with Blue Titanium Nitride Ring
• Zero Friction Main Shaft for added power
• Dual Full Time Anti Reverse
Overall I liked the feel of this reel and may consider getting myself to test, however it is not cheap and just to merely test something I am a bit apprehensive. Has anyone purchased this reel and tested it out with some large fish? If yes I would also like to know approximately how many times this reel has been used?

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Hi Bob,
My son got me the Saltist 6000H from Malaysia.Yes,Expensive as you say.
The great thing about this reel,is that it has a 33lb. drag, besides the other features as in the 4500.
The 4500 has a 22lb.drag.
The guys on the Australian forum were all praise for this reel, and hence I asked for it.
At my age I feel it a bit heavy,and have not used it yet.
I have half a mind to flog it, but just love its features.
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Good to know Sydney, was the reel made in Malaysia?

MM, the shop that I saw the reel in Caters to GT popping, you should see the rod I got, casting wt 100 - 180 grams, real beauty, you can really give those huge poppers a go, some protection for the index finger would help but I could never cast with my finger taped.

You will be interested to note that this guy said the Saltiga series is gaining in popularity and is evolving into a more robust reel (he was not selling any Saltigas). Furthermore the told me that the Shimano Japan were getting their major parts for the Stella like gears etc from Daiwa, if one of those companies was buying reel gears from another I would have thought it would be the other way round. But on handling both the Stella and Stella, the Saltiga “Feels” more robust. Jeen uses both these reels; he will be able to give us some more info.

MM, A question after how many good fish (do you feel) as Stella needs to go in for severing?


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King thanks for the info mate welcome to IA


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Hello Bobby,

With regard to more affordable spinning reels in sizes larger than 4500,suitable for popper fishing for GTs etc.,
the Aussie guides I used on my recent trip for pelagic fishing were using a lot of the Shimano Spheros models.

The latest Shimano brochure shows that Spheros in the
sizes 14000 and 18000 have a drag capacity of 20 kilos (45 lbs. apprx.)
and should be able to handle the stress of popper fishing.

A quick check with one of the largest tackleshop
in Sydney reveals that these cost A$230 and
A$265 respectively here and it is possible that these prices could be bettered in Singapore/Malaysia for our Indian buyers.

The Penn 7500ss Spinfisher costs A$140 here in Sydney and is again
spoken of well by the locals.

I hope this is of some help to anyone deciding to purchase reels that
are good value and can take some punishment.
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Has anyone of you used a Banax GTZ. I was in Malaysia recently and I hear that it is a reel of choice for Malaysian anglers who chase GTs.


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Hi Guys,

I have said this before. I would rather have one of each than both of same ( Stella & Saltiga). As for a stella ,We have used the 2006 models and are into the 4th year without a hitch and no drag washer replacements . The same story with the saltiga Dog Fight, except, I changed the washers to carbon tex after two years ,since I read a lot about the necessity to change the Drag washers on the GT forums ( THough I never had the drag sticking on a sustained run).

A lot depends on how you use your tackle. The stellas and Saltigas are predominantly designed for GT . Where you have a very specific tackle configuration consisting of the right braid( Test), Right leader, matching popper weight and right knot, and finally the right drag.

Now when the reel is rated to withstand or deliver a drag up to 44Lbs or 60 lbs it means that is the limit of the drag washers. No body can fish a 60lb drag ( even if you have the muscles or good looks for it) since the gt popping rods are rated for some thing around 20 to 30Lb at 45 degrees. Yes you can go up ward of the drag load mentioned on the rod if you point the rod at the fish and put the entire load on the reel as may be necessary when you have a fish too close to the boat for comfort.

THe point here is even the best tackle can malfunction if not handled or understood properly.

I am not advocating for expensive tackle here. What Iam trying to say is that the best tackle can be made to look ordinary with wrong usage while substandard tackle can last longer and perform truly when used well.

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