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Dear Friends,

There is a common perception that catching a Catla (Catla catla) by hooking it in mouth is almost impossible and thus it can only be caught through foul means. Despite this perception, which is true in the sense that this fish does not take hook bait, there are many anglers who have caught Catla, properly hooked through the mouth. One hear many stories from different part of word, specially Bengal, of different techniques to attract this great fish and hooking it in mouth but on close scrutiny they turn out to be some modified form of Jhappy or some thing like that. I am starting this post in hope of generating some knowledge base to go after this elusive fish. I request all of you, who have caught catla, properly hooked through the mouth, to share their experience and techniques through this post. Here in Powai, there are monster size Catlas and my self and Granta have put there hearts on catching one of them. Any and all help will surely be appreciated.



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Hi Ali,
There is a theory that because the catla has a comparatively oversized lower lip, it is unable to take the bait off the ground, but instead uses its tail to "whack" the bait in order to cause it to rise prior to a take. This is believed to be cause for it being often foul-hooked.
If this is so, perhaps suspending the bait a few inches off the ground could be an alternative.
At Powai, as you know, we have always been setting the float with the bait on the ground - maybe its time to try something different ??


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Ali, this may sound funny but it might actually work. Try using a small rossogulla for hook bait with a hair rig. Since it is porous and semi-buoyant, when the catla comes close the bait will move and possibly rise up resulting in a proper take. The sweet syrup would also act like an attractant. You could also make it suspend a few inches off the bottom by using a small ball of foam inside or above the bait like the pic below.



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Thanks Hawkeye and Bops,
I will give your sugestion a try and lets hope it works. Bops it will be almost impossible to give rasogulla a try in presence of Rajat :lol: . I have to give him a slip the day I try that. :wink: .

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Alibhai .. why dont you try Rajat himself ... :lol: :lol: :lol: you wont need the pop up foam .. but it would be one very large rosoogola :evil: :evil: :evil:[/quote]


Ali, PLEASE! I have to see this. And so does that little croc. I am sure you will catch something.

hahahahahaahahahahahaahah But remember ease him into the water. Throw him and the lake will come out.


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I tried a "paste hair rig" which is really ideal for our atta bait and I loved it. It really works.

It look like a small and slightly soft spring that you get from a cheap ball pen fixed to the hair. Needless to say the atta really clings well.


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catla caught on 2 hook setup ,bait can sweetcorn and bread squeezed to a thick paste dip rasgulla residue colored with saffron yellow ,groun bait ghee residue chum fruit s residue from juice stall mixed with cheera
location back waters of tg halli dam ,
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Ustaad !! :D


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Aap ki dua say
regards riaz :P :P :P


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Sharminda mut kejiye.... :-)

Looks like the catla would be around the 3kg mark :roll: :roll:


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Guys,
When I am talking about catla, I am talking about a giant some where between 50 to 100 lbs. Here in Powai, my self and Allan are giving it a real try to develop a technique and bait to specifically target Catla and hook it properly. We had some success with a combination of feeder rig and hair rig but some how we lost the fish as in three cases the fish got unhooked after a small run and in other two cases it straitened the hooks and got away. The irony of this method is that if we use small and laser sharp hooks, we are not able to land the fish as the drag created by the weight of feeder ball either unhook it or the hooks get straitened and if we use bigger and sturdy hooks, there is no hookups. What a paradox man. Here I request all the hair rigs masters to come forward and advice us about the setup. We know that we are close to success as I was able to land a 21 lb. Hybrid during this period of experimentation. Not a bad starting, considering it is a half catla.

Not as good a smile as of Bops, but I did try. :wink:


Dreaming about other great ones. :oops:


I am not laughing man, I am grimacing. It is tough to pose with a fish, very angry with you, with an injured and frozen right shoulder. I pray my doctor and wife will not see this picture. :D


Rajat feeling the weight of this one. :!: :?:


Allan setting up his rigs.



Gavin, I will be highly obliged if you can advice us about the bait recipe to put on feeder.

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Ali Bhai - PM me your mob # and i will give u a buzz this evening.. Will talk some ..


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Gavin,

PM on its way.

Thanks and regards,

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Thanks Ali.. got the PM.. Will call u this evening


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hey buddy the entire report is as usual like a school book lesson I should listen to you more regarding the bait and tactics but any way three cheers to you I still not get it how you manage this monster with the size of a hook you used you are really a champ [smilie=coolup.gif] [smilie=coolup.gif] [smilie=coolup.gif]


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Just to illustrate the point regarding the size of fishes we target, here in Powai, yesterday my brother Husaini ( Babloo Bhai) and Rajat went to the lake and Babloo hooked a Silver Carp of 50.6lb-(weighed later) and had a blast of a one hour fight with many heart stopping and line breaking moments but ultimately landing the monster. Congratulation Babloo and Rajat.











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Wooooooooooooooooooo..... :shock: :shock: :shock:


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great .......sir


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wow man. just what kind of line do you use for that.


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Thanks Ali... Also PM your address.. Will send you some stuff for them catlas :D


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hey i almost forget to suggest another alternative may be should should use me with some oxygen supply (off course) and i should try and catch that catla for you guys with my hand since no one has caught any yet hooked i mean :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


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Mk yeah that would be a good idea probably he has some link with them
:D :lol:

Gavin and Ali Thanx for the info mates. Will try my level best to try catch a Catla or two

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All the best amigo...


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My self and Gavin had a lengthy discussion regarding the ground bait and hook bait for Catle and accordingly on last Saturday, I went to Powai, prepared and in high anticipation of catching one of the target monster. I tried his methods for almost 36 hours but without any success. During that period Rajat took some great photographs of the lake which I am sharing with you.






This Saturday, I, Rajat and Allan once again decided to target this catla but with diffrent hook bait. As I have to attend the monthly meeting of our club on Saturday evening, I decided to stay for full night in my machan and Rajat & Allan promised to join me on Sunday morning. The method of fishing, we all agreed upon, was Feeder Rig or a combination of feeder rig and hair rig. During the Saturday night I cauht one mirgal of approximately 6lb and then the fishing stopped. During the night one Mangur decided to taste some of the bait, which indecently was for Catla or some other carp :!: :?: and in the middle of night, I was suddenly awakened by the happy sound of my reel singing. My first reaction was that it is my Catla but after a short fight, where the fish was hell bent to go under my machan or snag one of the pole, and many moments of straining the line up to its breaking point, I landed it. A mangur of 11 lb.
My Mirgal




My Mangur






Rajat, Allan and babloo joined me in the morning and we caught many undersized Mirgals. After some time Allan caught on good size mirgal (Almost 5 lbs) but was not able to land it as he had no landing net. As Rajat was trying his bomb size feeder rig, we all were sure that he will not catch any thing but lo and behold, while Allan was taking a photograph of a proud Darter, suddenly Rajats line also started ripping off the reel and after a short fight, where the boat was almost capsized :P :lol: , he also landed one good 6 lbs Mirgal.

Rajat with his Mirgal



The proud Darter




Allan setting up his Rod in Anticipation



All in all it was a nice day of fishing but still no CATLA. But rest assure that we will not give up unless we land our monster.

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Hi Ali Bhai,

Nice report and nice catch. Thanks for sharing.

Hi Rajat,

The first two pics are awesome.

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Thanks Apoo,
When do you plan to visit Mumbai. If you plan someting, i would love to fish with you for a day or two.

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Hi AA,

Catlas are not "jaldi khao" fish.. you need to keep baiting the area and only will you then get the results..

Patience is a virtue.... :lol: :D


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A little off topic, but one can easily make a paste hair rig, and the atta does stick well. A good variation more adapted to our style of fishing.

AND congratulations to you all for the wonderful catch. I am sure you will get a Catla soon.



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Powai & you guys ROCK....


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Beautiful Pictures Rajat, my man. It is a real pretty place and you seem to have captured it's best side.


Ali Bhai!

You prove that the journey is sometimes better than the destination. (Dam I sound like a fortune cookie) But don't worry sir the catla will come. Soon!

Also I don't think that is a Darter (Ahingas have longer necks) that is more like a Cormorant, can't make out if it is the Lesser or Greater one as the colours and size are impossible to tell.

Cheers people.


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Nice report, Ali :-)

Yup that's a thieving cormorant all right.

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Ali's quote All in all it was a nice day of fishing but still no CATLA. But rest assure that we will not give up unless we land our monster."

you bet brother ,thanks a ton for posting the pics and report partner as usual your are so good with words

Thanks for the words ken
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Beautifuil Pic's :D .....especially the 1st One.....
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& Good Catches too...too bad No catla....No Worries Buddy...u r gonna get them the next time... :D


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