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 Post subject: Some home made spoons
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:21 am 
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As above
Comments, critique welcome!
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Mytikina type spoon
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Dont go by the looks,this one has a great swimming action...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:11 am 
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thanks for sharing.....


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Love the spoons mate. Can I take some out for a field test, maybe Bhakra.

Just a thought. Maybe you can try a flying top hook. Saw a great illustration in "Indian Anglers Handbook" but I can't seem to find it.


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"Indian angler hand book" where? bops please pass it arround.


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Tats!

That book has nothing to do with this forum It was printed about 75 years ago. You could manage a reprint from the printer in Doon.


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Great show :shock: eljefe

Can u share if possible how u made them material etc.......

ANy ways great going......


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Excuse my ignorance but where do the batteries go :D :D :D :D


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JD these spoons are made up from these Batteries only..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: or may be possible that there spoons are sponsored by Duracell only.......... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Ken-sure thing have made one with a flying hook. see pic 2.Tech test? Anytime. preferably, with me in tow :)?
Phish, your ignorance is excused, batteries DONT go where you thought they should, only for size perspective/scale as no regular scale was handy!
Shapan, 1 or 1.5mm brass sheet, cut with water jet or this time it was milled-Have grown a bit smarter from the first time where I used a a fret saw-fingers still hurt at the thought! PM your email and I can send you a template, you can rack up the scale to suit your needs.Incidently the treble on the last spoon was picked up from Aziz Agha of Karachi-nice bloke, took us visitors from Dilli out for lunch!


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Good work Asif! Spoon no 2 looks good should dazzle them altright ;-)!
Yaj.


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2nd spoon looks cool.. what colour mono is that..?? (transparent?)


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Found the template , here goes Enjoy!
Santosh, imono is Red 40lb by Penn

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Doc!

I think the flying hook should be on a bit of line. this way it will have a bit of play.


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O venerable Doc/eljefe, didn't mean know disrespect mon!!

That smart ass comment was too good to give up after 48 hours of no sleep, working with difficult clients.
IA was my my only therapy, my fortress of solitude etc during these times. Doc the spoons look fantastic and I am really am hoping to catch
up with you at the pump house one day. cheers


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Seem to be good spoons Asif, specially no 3 and 4 (from the left). What is the weight like??? have your
tried them yourself and if yes, caught which fish?? Great work.
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Good effort doc!
Since i have some Mytikina spoons, i offer some thoughts.

The width of the blade needs to be increased, and propotionally also the curve, so that it causes a good bit of turbulance.

The metal used has to be heavy enough to keep it down in the depths if the water is fast, although lighter metal will be ok for a slow retrieve in slack water.

The flying treble should be mounted on wire from the top ring.
Using a swivel from the ring will help rotate the flying hooks better around the spoon. The flying hooks should drop down to around 3/4 of the length of the spoon.

If the flying hooks touch the spoon, as is the present case, the action of the spoon will be hampered.
If the mounting is correct, you can use the same size trebles for both. Most times i have had better luck on the flying trebels than on the fixed.

Doc i have some antique spoons from the British raj, meant to mount and spin chilwa on. Perhaps you would want to have a go at them. They are excellent for spinning chilwa.


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Sure thing Phish, was a TIC (tongue in cheek) reply too ;) no inference was drawn, so relax :)
...will/must catch up at one of the pump house jigs!
Sualeh, no 3 is a brand new spoon, made a couple of days ago, 1& 4, battered looking as they are, have been with the fish-Sowl about 2 kgs.
Owen- I use 1 mm brass sheet now, have been using them on a slow retrieve on still water...
the 2mm sheet is with me and will be a 15 min job to get them cut.Will use the broader shape from the template?
Hear you and ken about the flying spoon being on a wire, lower down.So whats a good wire?
would the possible congiguration be like:
Split ring on spoon(leading edge)
swivel
splitring( or wire)
treble
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Ok, lets see what i can work up this sunday.
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Split ring on spoon ---> 2 swivels on split ring ---> treble on swivle 1 & line tied to swivel 2.
2mm should be ok, the ones ihave are a little thicker than that and go dead if the water is not really fast. They are in 2 sizes 3" and 4" with size 6/0 trebels mounted.
Some times i think you should have been a sheet metal worker Doc :D


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Thanks OMO,
it would have given me more time to fish-sheet metal work.Am pretty deaf anyways ;)


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Doc ... one tip on mounting the top hooks of the sppon . make sure the eye sits flush on the spoon with the split ring ie then one hook sits upright on the retrieve and the hook sets are more definate . If you look at pic two if you turn the hook one more time down then it would sit on the sppon like i said ... This increases the rate of hook ups that you have in the upper lip of the fish


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Thanks Owen & Fred,
Have a few more blanks to convert...what are your thought on using 6/0 singles on teh trailing edge? I've run out of trebles
Hopefully, This winter, I can check out the "IA spoons " ?
Best
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Doc, the trebles should match the size of the spoon.
Small spoons, small trebles.
Big heavy hooks on a light spoon could kill the action of the spoon.
Try them out and decide for yourself. Initially you will be looking at the action of the spoon more than worrying about the fish they are supposed to catch.


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Owen, my spoons surprisingly, are based on the form follows function diktat-for good measure, i soak em in rum overnite and boy do they wobble...aquatic version of ol keshto-only thing is they dont hiccup :) :)
I take them out to the pool and do test runs, trusty ball peen hammer in a quick draw holster, ready for the aerofoil fine touch ;)
Never tried a single with a spoon, though I've seen weedless spoons...ok, might as well give it a whirl-worst case I'll catch myself a fish, hopefully no stress on the cursed ' T ' word :(
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Hi Asif,

Try making this one then.

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Gavin look what Santa is sending you for christmas this year :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Yup Gav, thats for being a good boy!
Bobby-I never would have believed , if you hadnt posted it!I'm only an apprentice sheet metal worker.She needs pasties though...

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Hahahahhahaha Bobby you are hilarious. On a serious note eljefe how did you manage to get bumps on dents which looks like water droplets on the spoon in the 4 pic.


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One things for sure you'll be hooking other stuff as well with them :lol:

Word of caution and advise dont keep them in the open in the house or them wives will get suspicious :lol:


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Tathagata wrote:
how did you manage to get bumps on dents which looks like water droplets on the spoon in the 4 pic.

The mans a master with the soldering iron :lol:


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shaphan wrote:
One things for sure you'll be hooking other stuff as well with them :lol:


Shaphan, please tell us more on the other stuff ??? :twisted: :lol:


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Shaphan,
Lucky guy Bobby mixes pleasure with pleasure.Colour scheme is intriguing too, and I wonder what the strike rate on this one is?
Tats
Heat the spoon over the gas ring, take soldering lead and touch it to the concave area. Most times, because spoon is NOT degreased/cleaned enough for proper 'electronic' soldering the lead will not accumulate (as I was hoping to 'tin' it without stannous chloride!) and instead I got this strange , non organic, metallic small pox effect.Leprous at first look, but works ;)
See, the master OMO recognised solder immediately!


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Doc don't forget i was born with a soldering iron in my hand :lol:


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Holy Mermaids [smilie=holyshit.gif]

Bobby - I need those spoons... I promise to support the local hookers [smilie=evil-sexor-lick.gif]


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Will see what I can sort out for christmas...


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So Bobby u'r Santas litle helper eah!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

NO wonder Santa isn't as effective as he use to be :lol:


Cheers!!!!! and keep churning out them curvey lures :lol:


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