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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:27 am 
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Guys
can u suggest the best lube (Available localy- India) for servicing spining reels and teh way we do that.
Means how do we service the reels after use and lube them.

Cast your suggestions fast.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:21 am 
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New reels do not require servicing, lube only if absolutely necessary. Nulon or any teflon based grease for the drag washers and singer light machine oil for bearings and joints.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:30 pm 
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MAYOOR you can use your own lube too :lol: Fish will get attracted :D


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:56 pm 
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A generous dose of WD40 after a good rinse is great. But make sure you remove the spool first.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:52 pm 
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prakash wrote:
MAYOOR you can use your own lube too :lol: Fish will get attracted :D


prakash we are talking about angling Not about techniques used post marrige !!!! :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:54 pm 
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Hi mayursud,

I am very new to spinning reels, but here is how I go with conventional surf reels.

1. Oil goes to the ball brearings and such
2. Grease goes to the gears and other moving parts

If you can get the following stuff,
Abu or other reel oil should do fine for oiling
Superlube does an excellent greasing

I you are not fishing in a hot weather, then vaselin should work just fine for grease.
Before servicing your reel, have a look at the reel to see which parts gets oil and which gets the grease

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:10 pm 
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mayursud wrote:
prakash wrote:
MAYOOR you can use your own lube too :lol: Fish will get attracted :D


prakash we are talking about angling Not about techniques used post marrige !!!! :lol:
mayur dear, i was talking bout tea tree oil which u grow in 1000 acres. Heard this tea tree oil is used in very fine aviation fine precision epuipment. Although it has very fine similarity wid what u fanatasise bout. :wink: :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:22 pm 
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I always use petroleum jelly on my reels ... never ha d a problem with them /// maybe you guys can try it ...


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Prakash, Is tea tree oil really used in aviation?
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thanx fred that seems to be quite good and best available option..
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Tea tree oil is a great insect repellant dont know about is fish attracting ability ;-)
Yaj.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:24 pm 
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Mahaseerken wrote:
A generous dose of WD40 after a good rinse is great. But make sure you remove the spool first.


WD40 is not a lubricant.

The reel will feel very smooth soon after you have sprayed it on but in reality, being a deep penetrating oil, it will actually loosen and eventually remove the grease, which will damage the gears in the long run.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:05 am 
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Absolutely Rustam,

WD40 is the best way to clean your reel once it has been in saltwater or freshwater that has a lot of silt. It strips the grease of completely and removes all the grit. A generous dose of good lube after a rinse and you have a 'new' reel.


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A generous dose of good lube after a rinse and you have a 'new' reel.


Glad you added that last bit, otherwise the punter would have sprayed WD40 and considered the job done. Which lube do you use?

So far I have only used the Shimano lube that came with the reels but when I run out of it (should take a good number of years as you are only supposed to put one drop through the service port once or twice per year), I would most probably use open gear grease for the gears (I was thinking about white lithium grease / chain grease but that may be a bit too viscous even for our hot conditions which can make grease run) and a light machine oil such as Singer Oil / Moly oil / any of my firearm servicing oils - Ballistol being my favourite.

Another possibility could be water resistant marine grease.

Bops, this topic needs to be transfered from 'Reviews' to the 'Bait, Tackle and Tactics' forum.

P.S.: If anyone is thinking of using silicon oil / grease, I would advice you not to use this where there is metal to metal friction as it will scour the metal surface.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:11 am 
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Lithium based grease is quite heavy. It is usually used for automobile moving parts where there is high friction (heavy load), fast moving parts & high temp.

the normal brown grease is suitable for 60dec C to 85decC temp & would be best suited for reels as it is lighter.

I did use the heavy lithium based grease, but realised while cranking the reel, although it is smooth the motion is restricted.
My dad always used singer sewing m/c oil

[smilie=coolup.gif] Regarding oiling, I use oil which came with my Philips electric razor. :idea: ...really fine, withstand high temp, non smelly, clear in colour & long lasting.

Here we use various types of grease for engines, pumps, motors, gensets etc & have a wide choice of stuff. Really helps when you are working with an engineering company. :lol:

I would definately be against the use of WD40 even to clean your reels. WD40 not only knocks of all the grease, oil and dirt, but creats a fine protective layer on the sprayed surface. WD40 has high penetration & could remain on ur reel for quite some time, even if you try to wipe it / wash it off. [smilie=damn.gif]

If you apply oil /grease after using WD40, do you seriously think it is going to remain on the moving parts ? The effect would be something of a running nose. [smilie=holyshit.gif]

A suggestion not as a specialist in reels, but from an engineering point of view. Just wipe the moving parts with a dry piece of cloth (do not use tissue) & regrease them. [smilie=fixtit.gif] Even metal has fine grooves & those grooves get deposited after sufficient wear of the gears (cutting in period). Thats why we have a running in period in automobiles (carbon deposit seals off all the pores / openings) [smilie=whistle.gif]


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:12 pm 
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Thanks Keyur,

That is really good info. And very educative.

I normally use Singer machine oil. And normal petroleum jelly. I find the jelly the best as it is fine and clean enough. And it does not really thicken in the cold. But is does seem to run a lot in the summer.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:18 pm 
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Guys if you use Abu Garcia multipliers, ensure that no oil gets on the drag washers. They are meant to run dry.

The drag will slip if you let any oil get on the washers, and you end up tightning the drag more than required and the line coming out in jerks. Lost a few big fish this way, so you can avoid this happening to you. I learnt the hard way.

The caps marked for oil on either side of the reel, need no more than 2 drops in each of them, any more than that, and the oil trickels down the shaft and into the drag washers, and unless they are absolutely dry, don't add any oil.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:00 pm 
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Steer clear of grease inside the body of fixed spool reels. It just clogs then up.
Personally, I just open the caseing, use a sysringe to half fill it with petrol close it and give it 20 minutes or so before giving the whole thing a good shake and turn and pouring the petrol out along with any old oil and bits of worn gear. I then simply re lube with light motor oil.
Don't forget to lube the bail arm machanism as well. I use the syringe again and try to avoid disasembling it unless I really have to because if a spring does it's thing, your reel is as good a useless


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I have tried sewing machine to lubricate a 35mm Shakespeare fresh water reel however i used regular grease for the gears, Keyur is right about motion being restricted. Can anyone suggest any local brand of grease.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:56 pm 
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I use automobile grease and oil gd 40 mixed ,and make the grease light with the oil till it runs as smooth as I feel it should be.. I know I should not mix the two but I have done it for v v long and the reel works fine for 2 yrs of hard fishing. Now-a-days with others lubes available on the net the best I feel is Abu Garcia oil and grease.Open the reel and wash it with petrol before you grease it.You will find all the find sand which corrodes the metal.------and then when I have some spare time _ I pick up a friends reel and service it for him
Cheers Hamdhingra


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:56 am 
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Hopps No 9 Gun Grease... you could get it at India Hbby Centre in Delhi, but the place shut down quite a while ago... you can get at the NRAI or a good gun store...

Been using it for years...

Cheers,
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:16 am 
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Hamdhingra & indiangypsy thanks for sharing the information


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I use wd40 to loosen a reel wicht have been to long in the box, othervise i use chainoil for motorbikes. When i`m traveling i use standard coconut oil, the coconut oil is a quick solution it "wears" out quickly. The grease the mechanics use for wehk berings is wery good thou.


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