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 Post subject: Hemp Seeds
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:52 pm 
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While I'm going to get a lot of tongue in cheek replies to this one, :lol: whats this forum's experience with hemp seeds in India? Availability, cost, legality,and how-to-use?
I'm afraid, inspite of being a physician, experience is limited to 'book knowledge' only and that too the illegalities :roll: ...and the urine/blood tests to show some one's under influence of... :twisted:
How come its sold legally in UK as 'failsafe' carp bait? Is the UK hemp something else? :shock:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:14 pm 
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Hemp is legal in many places. It has nothing to do with its wicked cousin.

Hemp is grown in various parts of the world for its fiber. In fact there is a famous chain called Hempest which sells designer stuff.


Coming back to fishing. Never used it but like you have heard lots about how it is the perfect ground bait.

Maybe we should start experimenting with other seeds like bajara, til or even melon seeds.

cheers


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:16 pm 
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"Recreational" bait for recreational fishing

Dam could not resist it.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:07 pm 
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Ken, Bajra is Ragi.
Fresh stock coming up from Blr soon


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:22 pm 
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Great!

The pumps are to be put off today. Shhhh!


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:38 pm 
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Mahaseerken wrote:
Great!

The pumps are to be put off today. Shhhh!



mmmpffff :lol: speak in tongues Sifu!

Dev


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:58 pm 
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Come on, TIGHTLINERS, [smilie=headfuck.gif] ,Bajra is pearl millet, tamil-cambu, telugu-sazzala, kannada-sajje, oriya-Bonga- Marathi and Gujjus called bajra or maybe in some ending with the letter `i`, in botanical terms Pennisetum typhoideum.

Ragi Bot. name Eleusine coracana, hindi-mundal or makra, tamil-kizhvaragu, telegu-ragulu, oriya-mandi, Bongo-Madua and other names ginger millet.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:03 pm 
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eljefe wrote:
Ken, Bajra is Ragi.
Fresh stock coming up from Blr soon


Hey Asif! They are both types of millet but I dont think they are the same.Check out this link
http://www.fao.org/docrep/W1808E/w1808e0k.htm

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Yaj.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:11 am 
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Bobbee youre the the man .... fluff me head is spinning :P :P :P


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Yeah Fred and you don't even drink anymore, so you can imagine the rest of us :lol:


Last edited by Owen on Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:52 am, edited 1 time in total.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:21 pm 
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Sorry Bobee, pore ol South Indian in exile in North India mate!
hessaru gottilla!
All i know is outside of INA market, hard to get here...
Not as easy as asking the wasi ghillies to mix up 2 kgs ragi mix maadi! ;)
Whats hemp then?
Ken, is hemp the stuff we see growing on the side of the road ? ;)
I saw a crude wooden board 2 k from my new place saying 'bhang ka theka'...blimey, its not april 1st?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:48 pm 
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Yup thats the stuff Asif. Won't find it growng wild in the south though.
You need to soak hem in hot water before mixing it with your ground bait, otherwise they tend to float away. Boil indian corn taken off the cob with hemp seed, and mix it with oil cake.
Some anglers even use hemp seed as hook bait, the hooks would of course be pretty tiny, with quite a few seeds on a hook.
Works good once the fish get the taste for them. Nice nutty taste :wink:


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 Post subject: hemp seed
PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:58 pm 
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Hi Asif,
being a regular used of hemp seed for fishing, I will endeavour to give you the complete preparation, grondbaiting and using as hook bait.
I soak the hemp seed in water for 24 hours making sure that the seed is well covered to allow for saturation. Next morning, simmer the seed till they just split. The time taken is generally 2 hours.
For a days fishing I take 2 pints of the seed. The rest I freeze for the next trip. I fish 2-3 times a week.
Ground baiting. I use a catipult to fire the seed to the required distance.
Initially I will put in 2 cupfulls to start with. Once the fish find the seed, baiting can be continued with about 10-15 seed every 10 minutes or after every fish caught. For hookbait, select the seeds which have just started to split. Hook size must be no larger than 16 as the seeds are too small for hooks any larger. Push the bend of the hook into the split without bursting the seed. This method can only be fished on light tackle and not too vigorous a cast. I generally fish it 15 feet away. Any force used to cast and the bait will fly off. I will send a sample of hempseed with Fred Fernandes when he returns to India at the end of Aug. I hope this answers all your questions. Try it next time. Cheers, Henry


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:17 am 
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Henry, please check the legality of sending Hemp to India before actually doing so. I have a feeling it could lead to problems.

Bops


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:52 am 
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FREEZE! You have the right to remain silent.....

It is illegal. Comes under trafficking.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:07 am 
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 Post subject: hemp seed
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:48 pm 
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Hi Owen,
am I right in assuming that you are confused?
Henry
ps. have you tried those barbless hooks yet?


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 Post subject: freeze
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:51 pm 
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Hi Mahseerken,
thanks for enlightening me.
Henry


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hi eljefe.... have procured the hemp!!! the de-seeding will take time.... will let you know when its done!!! [smilie=chongin.gif] [smilie=spliff.gif]


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:40 am 
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There's nothing particularly special about hemp. It's just easily available in the UK, cheap and effective.
The basic idea is to put down a bed of particle baits to get any feeding fish that pass through the swim to stop and start sifting through the silt or gravel on the bottom to find the tasty bit of cooked seeds. Meanwhile, you drop a bigger tastier bait in amongst them and catch a few.
There are lots of alternative "particle baits" on the market. They contain varying mixtures of hemp, millet and other small seeds that arnt to strongly flavoured or oily. A lot of folks simply use the cheapes bird seed they can find, cook it and pile it in.
Being cheap makes it ideal for prebaiting because if you're intending to fish with a bait like boilies or luncheon meat, you can put in a couple of handfulls of particle bait and a handfull of boilies or cubed meat every day for a week or so, without breaking the bank and when you turn up to fish, your quarry should have made a stop off at the baited area a regular part of their feeding cycle so you can start catchig straight away.


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 Post subject: Re: hemp seed
PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:18 am 
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Henry Gonsalves wrote:
Hi Owen,
am I right in assuming that you are confused?

ps. have you tried those barbless hooks yet?

Not really Henry, just going a bit crazy.
Must have something to do with the fact that i just put in a couple of hours fishing since April, and that was with the the Mumbai gang!
Regards
Owen


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:29 pm 
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I am not very sure but i think hemp seeds are avaliable in certain parts of WB. hemp is commercially grown in parts of Assam and WB for its fibre.

if you are looking for particle baits. I have tried bird seed in a few shallow lakes works well. I have also tried a combination of boiled JADA chawal which sinks and then use balls of maida on the hook. For top feeding fish popcorn...... sounds silly but works.

RulerofSun


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:38 pm 
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Thanks Henry,
HOLD! STOP! FREEZE!-DO NOT SEND!
l;egality is unknown!!
I guess I'll try to get it here, at that bahng ka theka -as advertised.
Thanks for the DIY advise though
Best
Axx


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