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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:25 pm 
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Taken by a local fisherman, off Kovalam on live freelined prawn.
He also caught three more, all same in shape but two were silvery with dark bars, one was dark with darker blotches.


Any IDs welcome


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off hand I'd say its sub species off a perch!!!


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could also be a sea bass or the by product of a bass and a perch!!!

I think its safe for you to name him!


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I think it is called palo in Goa


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Looks like a bream... Coracinus Capensis


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Thanks Bops.

Did you get it off the Maldives fish pdf?
Anyone caught it before?
Fred? Bobby? Small game? Native khabar?
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Nopes. Was reading a book called fishing south africa on google print. One of the preview pages had this fish on it.

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Hi Vedan,

Ask Dean and he will defenitely answer you. If I am correct, it is the palo (spelled in Goa) only.

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Guys,

This fish what is commonly known as a Blubber Lips, Sweet-Lips, or Grunt and yes they are related to the Perch.

The local name Palo or Paloo is commonly referred to Bream, but as all common names go they are very generic. This fish is not a Bream but from the Plectorhynchus or Plectorhinchus Genus depending on who you follow.

This one is the Black or Brown Sweet Lips

Brown Blubber-Lips - Plectorhynchus gibbosus Lacepede
Black Sweetlips - Plectorhinchus sordidus Klunzinger (Dont let the fishbase image throw you off).

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Hi Guys,

I think it is very important to call a fish by the correct name, it is frustrating enough when you go out hunting particular species and you have to deal with the locals trying to locate a fish by name and are misinformed, so at least us anglers should try and get it right instead of horsing around. I don’t know about the rest of you guys but when I fish I like to know what I have caught and if I do not I will go lengths to find out what it is.

I am posting and image of what I am convinced is the same fish below. As I said in my earlier post - Brown Blubber Lips




Here is another image of a couple of different Bream AKA Paloo, Palo, Palu, hardly the same fish.



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Sorry about the horsing around mate :cry: :cry:

Thanks for the pics.. Looking at them, I see there is a distinct difference in the pectoral and dorsal fins of both the fish.. Maybe a way where we can positively identify which fish is which :roll: :roll:
But then again, my expertise on Blubber Lips and Palu is very limited..


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To identify fish one has to be or act colour blind. Everything from temps to water colour to age affect their camouflage.

Learnt something from this thread. That is to make sure you identify the fish correctly (i have a lot of bird books to do this with birds now I need to get a few fish books too). Thanks mates!!!

Bobby's Blubber Lips is the winner of this identification parade.


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Hi Bobby

Please could you mention one or two books that you refer to for saltwater fish?

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Dr. Burgess's Atlas Of Fishes is one of them
Ken Shultz Encyclopedia of Fishing is another
Grants Fishes of Australia
Several other smaller handbooks and charts.

You cannot reffer to just one book, but if you were to go for just 1 Fish ID book then go for the Atlas.

The key to IDing is knowing your fish and the ability to recognize the Genus from a photographic point of view, so you know where to look or you will take a very long time looking through these books.

Good E.g. would be every one knows what a shark looks like to recognize one of a picture, say you look at the gill openings, many, so if you see something like this you know where to look. If you are looking for a type of Ray you shoud know that Sharks and Rays are related so in a book like that Rays and Shark will be grouped close together. Just a brief example...


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