[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 494: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 113: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 113: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 113: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 113: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 113: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 113: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 113: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 113: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 113: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 113: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 113: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 5336: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3925)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 5336: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3925)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 5336: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3925)
Masheer Species - INDIANANGLER ->

INDIANANGLER

India fishing forum for all the information you require on angling, equipment, locations and trip reports.
It is currently Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:09 pm

All times are UTC+05:30


Forum rules





Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 26 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Masheer Species
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:50 pm 
Offline
Fishaholic
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:30 pm
Posts: 355
If somebody could please list down the various species of Masheer in the sub-continent along with the names the pics would be really help full as i just wanted to cross check with the species in Pakistan.


Regards

Shaphan Samuel 8) :D


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:26 pm 
Offline
Fishaholic

Joined: Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:08 am
Posts: 2102
OMO's deptt. :lol: :lol:

Cheers,
Apoo


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:57 am 
Offline
Fishaholic

Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:39 pm
Posts: 200


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:35 am 
Offline
Fishaholic
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:30 pm
Posts: 355
What about TOR KHUDREE ( Gosh I hope i have got the spellings rite) also referred to decane Masheer??????

I think pics would be also helpful in setling the whole predicaeint


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:10 am 
Offline
Enlightened
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:43 pm
Posts: 79
Shaphan.....
There are lots of details and discussions about Mahseer species in IA. Mainly posted by Owen and some others. Keep surfing the forum and you will have a better picture.

| Cheers
| Sreekanth Soman
|
|
|
¿ < º)))))><


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:44 pm 
Offline
Fishaholic

Joined: Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:26 am
Posts: 1479
OK thanks to all the guys who have contributed pictures, i will post pictures of the 4 species of mahseer that we have here in India. There is a fifth (the tor mosul or copper mahseer) that Bops had posted, need to hunt around the forum to find it.
Tor Mussullah (Silver)

Tor Kudhree (Deccan Mahseer)

Tor Tor

Tor Putitora

There are many colour variations in the mussullah and the kudhree which need mention.

In the mussullah there are the Gold with orange fins and the silver with orange fins, there could also be a black, but i don't have picture evedince.

The Kudhree can be distinguished from the mussullah as the body is more rounded, it has less of a hump, its head is a little smaller than the mussullah, Its dorsal fin is laid back while the mussullah has an erect dorsal fin, and the anal fin is less rounded than the mussullah. Last of all it does not grow as big as the mussullah.

The kudhree comes in colours of black, bronze, silver, gold, and many of them have blue fins.
The difference between tor tor and the putitora can easily be seen from the pictures.
Hope this helps
Regards
Owen


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:19 pm 
Offline
Fishaholic
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:30 pm
Posts: 355


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:19 pm 
Offline
Fishaholic

Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:39 pm
Posts: 200


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:49 pm 
Offline
Fishaholic
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:30 pm
Posts: 355


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:12 pm 
Offline
Fishaholic

Joined: Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:26 am
Posts: 1479


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:26 am 
Offline
Fishaholic
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:26 pm
Posts: 497
Searched in Google...found this Snap in trekearth.com

Hope this is the Fish Ali was Talking about :D

Owen is right, it is more stream lined than the Tor putitora, :shock:

Posting the Pic for all those who didn't find it



Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:43 am 
Offline
Fishaholic
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:58 pm
Posts: 3172
Hi Viper,

You have got to take into account that the fish in the picture above has been gutted as well, so it will tend to look more streamlined without the bulge.

Regards,

Bobby


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:53 am 
Offline
Fishaholic
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:30 pm
Posts: 355


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:56 am 
Offline
Fishaholic

Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:55 pm
Posts: 2142


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:01 am 
Offline
Fishaholic

Joined: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:35 pm
Posts: 165


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:27 pm 
Offline
Fishaholic

Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:39 pm
Posts: 200
I also noticed that the scales seem to different, maybe slightly larger than those of T. Putitora.

Since much of Balochistan is not connected to either the Indus River System or the Helmand River of Southern Afghanistan Its probably descended form an isolated population of T. Putitora that has evolved differences over millions of years.

Owen,

I also read about accounts from WW1 of massive mahseer from the Tigris and Euphrates in Iraq.

This fish though has now been quite well documented and its not really a mahseer at all, but one of the true Barbels. Their are several types of Barbel in the Middle East but the mahseer like one is the only spieces that grows to great sizes. Its called Gau Mahi in Farsi but I dont know the Arabic name, I think its scientific name is Barbus Grypus.

Heres a a pic of a British Officer in Iraq with one.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:42 pm 
Offline
Fishaholic

Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:55 pm
Posts: 2142
Wow! What a fish.

My dad knew an Iraqi diplomat a long time ago. I remember we used to go to their house for dinner and would often be served fish that was flown in from bagdad. It was steamed and real good to eat. It was not mahseer but a type of carp that was 'only found in Iraq'.

hope the yanks leave some alive.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:35 pm 
Offline
Fishaholic

Joined: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:35 pm
Posts: 165
Man, that's a serious fish.
I remember reading the article somewhere, apparently ths angler caught them from Saddam's lakes where no one was allowed to fish. Sigh. It's good to be King.

Gen. R.B.Phayre was planning on writing a book about mahseer in the '40s but India 'liberated' herself and the readership hopped it home and lost interest. He mentions 200+lbs fish caught on atta in the Tigris and Euphrates around the '30s and '40s, Barbus seich, a cousin of our mahseer. He also mentions people getting dragged away by the fish. Photos of a 233lb fish with the platoon were witnessed by him. The hooks were fashioned from bayonets and other sundry metalware. The line used to be surplus telephone cable left over from the war....
Got this from 'The Fisherman's Bedside Book', 2nd ed., 1948.

Cheers,

V.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:36 pm 
Offline
Fishaholic
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:58 pm
Posts: 3172
What a fantastic fish!!


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:15 pm 
Offline
Fishaholic

Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:55 pm
Posts: 2142
Vedan!
There's a reference to this (telephone cable and gun metal hooks and fish being pulled out with the help of trucks) in the Anglers handbook to India... or something like that.

Man what an age that would have been. Basic equipment and big fish. MAke me want to read Corbet and Anderson al over again.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:15 pm 
Offline
Fishaholic
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:30 pm
Posts: 355
Fateh Sb,

Great going, thas some prety Neat Info.

Still waiting for your singhara PICs from Mangla. and where was that secret place u mentioned??????


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:32 pm 
Offline
Fishaholic

Joined: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:35 pm
Posts: 165


Another putitora, 18kgs, taken on drifted crab from the Ramganga. That's my better half (the one with the rod). Not her first fish, but definitely her personal best.
She wants a 36kg mahseer next or a bigger goonch.

Cheers,
V.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:33 am 
Offline
Fishaholic

Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:55 pm
Posts: 2142
Nice catch Vedan. Good fish too!

Believe me there is nothing better than a better half who fishes. I am looking at one right now.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:38 am 
Offline
Fishaholic

Joined: Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:41 pm
Posts: 146


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:54 am 
Offline
Fishaholic
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:30 pm
Posts: 355


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:26 pm 
Offline
Fishaholic

Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:55 pm
Posts: 2142


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 26 posts ] 

All times are UTC+05:30


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited