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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:39 pm 
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Lovely fish!

What sort of fight does a Nile Perch put up?

The third pic...are those golden mahseer and what's the location - don't recognise the structures in the background.

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Looks like Utaranchal to me...

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This is about those 2 masheer in the last of the 3 pictures. Real nice fish, pity the people in the picture holding them were not informed on fish handling.
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Lovely fish!

What sort of fight does a Nile Perch put up?

The third pic...are those golden mahseer and what's the location - don't recognise the structures in the background.

Rustam


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:26 pm 
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The Nile Perch does put on a good fight. Its a awesome sight to see a big fish leap out of the water trying to throw the hook . These were all caught on 20 Ib braid using big rapalas.

As for the two Mahseer and fish handling, in Rome do as the romans do.
Across the river , which is Nepal , we saw a Nepalese fisherman catch a bigger Mahseer ,maybe about 40 pounds , pull it out gaff it and carry it home to eat. ____Now that is bad fish handling.
All the fish that you see were caught ,revivied and released.


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Hi hotshot,

You say that the fish were revived.
Dude, if someone hung me the way the fish were hanging, I'd be anything but revived :shock:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:43 pm 
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Dear Hotshot,

Wonderful fish and amazing nile perch but for whatever its worth, the mahseer would get damaged if they were carried on gill ropes like that. I mean no disrespect (Ive damaged a few fish in my time unintentionally) but with respect to any hook caught fish meant for release the rule is that they are never to be lifted out of the water on a gill rope and that the whole body has to be supported by both arms if the fish is large. The fish is to be taken wholly out of water for just an instant and should be kept in the water or half in the water at all times if possible.

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Dear Hotshot,

I am afraid that I must agree with the esteemed (or is it steamed?) members who have taken issue with the unnecessary and wanton slaughter of these fine fish.

Knowing the physiology of Barbus Tor Putitora, the manner in which they have been suspended would collapse the Afferent Branchial Artery and cause irreversible damage to the Bulbus Ateriosus. Revival after that would need Divine Intervention.

That is why I have always insisted that the many Masheer I have caught be handled only in the water briefly and immediately released. Although strictly not a Jain, I believe in Karma. Please remember that fishing does not mean irresponsible annihilation. Please do not misunderstand.

By the by, I have heard that because of their predatory nature Nile Perch are thriving in certain brackish waters in Bangladesh. Do you fish there frequently? Very nice pictures though.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:59 am 
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Not the way i see it mate! There is a difference between angling and fishing for ones livelyhood.
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Owen
hotshot wrote:
The Nile Perch does put on a good fight. Its a awesome sight to see a big fish leap out of the water trying to throw the hook . These were all caught on 20 Ib braid using big rapalas.

As for the two Mahseer and fish handling, in Rome do as the romans do.
Across the river , which is Nepal , we saw a Nepalese fisherman catch a bigger Mahseer ,maybe about 40 pounds , pull it out gaff it and carry it home to eat. ____Now that is bad fish handling.
All the fish that you see were caught ,revivied and released.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:01 pm 
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Hi wolf,
Thats not a gill strung fish. A small cut in the top lip membrane and the stringer is inserted there. This is done in most big game fishing areas around the world. In fact nile perch and tarpon, which are brought in are gaffed at the lip thru and thru. , lifted into the boat ,photographed weighed and later released.
Strangely, the bigger Mahseer in the photo at 37 pounds was caught again a day later and showed no sign of any distress.
IN fact the Cauvery Mahseer are usually gill strung by the guides and that leads to a few casualties.
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Dear mystic maral, or should i say mistake maral,
I know for a fact you are neither a doctor ,have caught no mahseer and have no knowledge on this great sport of mahseer fishing, so why are you on my case?
You are also mis informing this elite forum, on Nile Perch in Bangladesh.Perch are only found in the Nile systems in fresh water. But then again what can we expect from a Texas boy with a bit of book knowledge living next to Bass Pro.
As for Jainism and Karma......you eat all your Maral...so what are you preaching about.

Anyway....am off for my next adventure so will reply in 15 days time.


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Good luck hotshot, don't forget to bring back some nice pix.
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Owen
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Dear mystic maral, or should i say mistake maral,
I know for a fact you are neither a doctor ,have caught no mahseer and have no knowledge on this great sport of mahseer fishing, so why are you on my case?
You are also mis informing this elite forum, on Nile Perch in Bangladesh.Perch are only found in the Nile systems in fresh water. But then again what can we expect from a Texas boy with a bit of book knowledge living next to Bass Pro.
As for Jainism and Karma......you eat all your Maral...so what are you preaching about.

Anyway....am off for my next adventure so will reply in 15 days time.


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Gill strung with a very soft rope and for not too long is the way to do it mate. After all the masheer is an endangered species. Didn't mean to kick up the dirt and start a row. So cool down guy's and let us give the Masheer a chance!
I am posting some pix of masheer i caught in days gone by. Rarely see that kind of action on the Cauvery these days.
Regards
Owen
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hotshot wrote:
Hi wolf,
Thats not a gill strung fish. A small cut in the top lip membrane and the stringer is inserted there. This is done in most big game fishing areas around the world. In fact nile perch and tarpon, which are brought in are gaffed at the lip thru and thru. , lifted into the boat ,photographed weighed and later released.
Strangely, the bigger Mahseer in the photo at 37 pounds was caught again a day later and showed no sign of any distress.
IN fact the Cauvery Mahseer are usually gill strung by the guides and that leads to a few casualties.
regards.
hotshot


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I know for a fact you are neither a doctor ,have caught no mahseer and have no knowledge on this great sport of mahseer


Dear Hotshot (or should I say Snotshot),

Now that you've blown my cover, you can make up by posting pictures of your tigerfish and that mysterious maral we've so often discussed over Ardbeg.

Take care in the Dark Continent.......I heard Botswana is famous for mambas.

oops......look what I found floating by (while I was fishing for maral, of course :lol: ):

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Didn't mean to kick up the dirt and start a row. So cool down guy's


Not to worry. Just taking the mickey out of a great nature lover, superlative sportsman, and my good friend: Hotshot (who really is a hotshot!!) Plus, he's landed several masheer over 70lbs, damn him!!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:29 am 
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Beautiful fish, quite unusual colouring on the tail.
Looks like Galibori to me ? Right ?
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Owen
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Didn't mean to kick up the dirt and start a row. So cool down guy's


Not to worry. Just taking the mickey out of a great nature lover, superlative sportsman, and my good friend: Hotshot (who really is a hotshot!!) Plus, he's landed several masheer over 70lbs, damn him!!

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Mm


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That's a lovely fish Jeff!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:45 am 
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Thank you Hotshot for that info. You learn something new everyday...

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You Know What Guys:

What you probably get in Bangladesh is Barramundi (Lates Calcarifer) a cousin of the Nile Perch (Lates niloticus). They are very similar fish almost identical. They share the same Genus, Class and order, the Nile Perch has a suborder Perecodi.


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Looks like Galibori to me ? Right ?
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Actually, it was just upriver from Hathi Pool @ Bheemeshwari.

Mm


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No wonder i have never seen that fish before. Don't go there too often.
Owen
mysticmaral wrote:
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Looks like Galibori to me ? Right ?
Regards
Owen


Actually, it was just upriver from Hathi Pool @ Bheemeshwari.

Mm


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You know what guys,
Just the pics and the sheer knowledge pool being shared makes my day, being on this forum.
Thanks and Great job
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