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 Post subject: Success
PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:14 pm 
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Ok Guys

Bops finally got me going ..

Sat for a couple of hours trying to figure out between 3 windows -- back and forth and finally got somewhere

A kick on the backside from Bops too helped ---

Heres some of the catches weve had at the lodge at Durg

One monster red snapper caught out on the reef
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A 18 lb cuda caught on the reef
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a 32 lb grouper ,, released and swimming free - broke my back

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a 22 lbs baracuda caught upriver ( very strange ) at dusk

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Thanx Bops ...


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:34 pm 
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Congrats Fred, finally...nice pictures.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:35 pm 
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a 32 lb grouper ,, released and swimming free - broke my back.


And there was me thinking that if you gaff a fish like that it's a goner. Where exactly is the gaff placed?

Nice pics, Fred. Keep them coming.

Rustam


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:38 pm 
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The fish prob was a gonner, looks like the throat or gills.

Rusty, To release a fish (if you gaff) you put the gaff hook point into the mouth and around the lower lip.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:39 pm 
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Thanks, Bobby.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:46 pm 
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Rusty , as soon as I saw the grouper i knew i had to release it so we did not use the gaff but the landing net . Once in the boat we quickly got the hooks out , The gaff was then placed before the first gill carefully and then the fish lifted for precisely 3 seconds as lifting a fish for too long in that manner really finishes the poor guy of . Fish was then supported by hand by the cameraman and lowered into the water and let go . Fish was in the boat not more than 3 minutes . Heres a picture of the release of the grouper

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:51 pm 
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Probably showing my ignorance here but aren't gills always on the side? In the pic it appears as if the fish has been gaffed on the underside???

Rustam


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:53 pm 
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yes Rustam Gills are on the side .. gaff was put in the centre so as not to damage the gills ..


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:23 pm 
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Oh my god. Now there's no stopping Fred! Good to see the pics coming through mate.

My colleague at work took one look at your pic and said, "Arre kya personality hai" :lol:

Bops


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:26 pm 
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Brightens up the site dosent it .... i had to adjust the color and contrast setting on my lap top ---


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:27 pm 
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Female colleague ??? Just asking


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:32 pm 
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Fred, If it was not damaged by the gaff then it looks like it's that time of the month of the Grouper!! :lol:

I'll be honest here, that guy would find the bottom of my belly..


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:37 pm 
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Bobster .. trust me ... blood u see is not what you think but just some superficial bleeding when i took out the hooks as the guy had taken the lure from the behind and you should know how they clamp their jaws shut once they are out of the water .. trust me at that size they taste awful .. reallly awful and he wasnt hurt bad bcoz as i took the gaff out . he just ducked under the surface and zipped of straight down with a flick of his tail


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I take it that's you in the pics, Fred. I know how to recognise you now when we meet next year.
You may find it more difficult to recognise me, so I'll be carrying a copy of the Times of India!

Well done on getting the pics sorted, I've had no problems at all and will be posting some more on the 'English way' soon.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:31 am 
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Fredfish wrote:
Bobster .. trust me ... blood u see is not what you think but just some superficial bleeding when i took out the hooks as the guy had taken the lure from the behind and you should know how they clamp their jaws shut once they are out of the water .. trust me at that size they taste awful .. reallly awful and he wasnt hurt bad bcoz as i took the gaff out . he just ducked under the surface and zipped of straight down with a flick of his tail


I know Freddy, just getting on your case mate, winding you up a bit, what are old friends for mate :lol: . I know these buggers are real tough.

I have never had a problem with the taste of Large Rock Cod or Grouper and I have eaten some even larger than the one in that pic.

The water at Durg is so clean, the fish should taste real good from there.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:11 am 
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I never thought there were groupers in our coasts before I visited Indian Angler. Can some one tell what type of grouper fishes are found along the east and west coasts of India. Any Jew Fish or Goliath Groupers around?

Thanks,
LF


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:19 am 
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Hi LF,

There are several types of Groupers available off our coasts. You are quoting American terminology i.e. Jew Fish = Grouper in America however Jew Fish in Australia is what Indians refer to Gol, this fish (Gol) is not from the Grouper family. Besides fish caught in the Pacific – Indo/Pacific region although they look identical to the Atlantic species may slightly differ.

Australian Jewfish:
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American Jewfish:
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But the answer to your questions is YES they are found around our coast, and I know some persons who have had first hand encounters with them diving.

Anglers here make a common mistake and call a Rock Cod a Grouper when in-fact they are not, the easiest way to ID the two is by the Gill Plate, a grouper has a Rounded Gill Plate where as a Rock Cod has an angular Gill Plate. Rock Cods are estuarine fish (though not confined to it) where as Grouper tend to be found more of reefs and in deep water (again they are not confined). Let me assure you however that 90% of the photos on this site where the fish have been called Grouper are in fact Rock Cod.

Grouper:
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Rock Cod:
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In markets here in Hong Kong the price is the differentiating factor, a Grouper will cost 3 times more than Rock Cod of even weight.

Listing all the types of Groupers will be some task, you would need help from the fisheries department and even then it will not be complete.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Bobby


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 Post subject: Groupers
PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:11 pm 
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Thanks Bobby,

That post helped me a lot. I have heard from guys in US that taking or keeping Jew Fish is banned there as they are becomming endagered.

http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/ ... ht=JewFish

I have not seen a Grouper in the local fish market, but I am not sure if there is any law in India for keeping Groupers or Jew Fish. Also I have read that Jew Fish can be caught only by using natural bait. I will check this info today evening and getback with the source of this information.

Thanks,
LF


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:28 pm 
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The book "Simon & Schuster's guide to SALTWATER FISH AND FISHING" is where I read, only natural bait should be used for Jewfish . Also it says that Jewfish is the largest of the Groupers.

LF


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I have got what is probably the smallest Grouper in my tank, a Royal Grama:

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I believe I may have already posted this picture on site..


Last edited by Bobby on Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:53 am, edited 1 time in total.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:19 pm 
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Hi Fred,

At last, my friend, you had mastered the art of posting pics on the site.

Nice pics.

Cheers,
Apoo


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:11 pm 
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hey Apoo u underestimate me.. u shd see some of the other things I do besides getting ole trident all worked up .. but the guy got me this time and too good effect .. i became a techie over nite rite bops ??


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:52 am 
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Actually Fred, I got tired of seeing Photography as one of your interests in the profile. Guess I finally got you moving !

I'm learning photography as well and am part ways through a new book called "Rick Sammon's Complete Guide to Digital Photography", it's a nice read and can be found at,

http://www.amazon.com/Sammons-Complete- ... F8&s=books

Bops


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