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Cant beat this i guess.



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Holy Crap!

Wels Catfish??? Where did you get the pix. I have seen some stunning videos on Youtube about catching them in France.

Need to get me one of those too!!!


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heard anglers in Italy catch big Cats with lures.. :?:


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Fish of 100 lbs.+ are fairly common in the Ebro in Northern Spain.

Their is a lake near to the University where I did my LLB in England that was stocked full of em. Trouble is my only buddy with a car was an anti-fishing freak, so I spent my time lure fishing for pike in the river that ran through town.


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Santosh!

Do a 'Wels Cat Fishing's search on youtube or metacafe and you'll see how people jig for them using artificials. The lure is some kind of squid like thing with a bit of bait on the hooks. Pretty interesting!


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Does the goonch attack humans.. any reported incident.??


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If Mr Wade's stories are to be believed, Small children are just a snack. When a really big goonch gets peckish, it drags whole buffalow into the river for a proper feed.


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well i guess that there are a few out there waiting for us :-)


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Yr 1978 -we were shooting ducks in Mudmeshwar - maharashtra .Madmeshwar is a semi marsh 4 X 2 Kms These local fishermen asked if we would like to buy fish - I said “lets see” and they took their nets and brought out a similar size mallee- (as in the photo)they had captured it earlier and put it into a big long pool (30Yds X 60 Yds)(Volcanic lava depressions) to keep it alive.I was shocked at the size of it and they wanted to sell it for Rs 200/-.I did not buy it
As regards Goonj - I feel they only go in for dead stuff. They generally feed by sitting in the fastest of currents and keep their mouth open(for oxygenation and for food) and anything that comes goes- in and out v soon for their intestine is v v small. And they generally sit around bends where solid food will come to the corner as it goes round the corner.
I have hooked 7-8 of them one evening after I came to understand them. They just straighten out the hooks and then I did get the better of them. Fought one for about an hour-the 8th one- and it was about 50 Kgs (conservative estimate).Did everything right but she just would not come into dead water (Ropar- opp boat club) Will post photos of 2 I caught on the next trip.
Will tell you one thing that you can not get a goonj to come to slow water for she feels lack of oxygen and will flip like mad and get out one way or the other. She has skin similar to you and me - no slime and the best way is to keep her in moving water and then just catch her tail and lift her clean out (Upto 20 odd kgs) .Looks horrible - big teeth - but quite harmless - will live for long outside water.
She has yellowish flesh. Bland taste - and when you fine carve one for fish fingers with no trace of glands or the red meat or skin - you get 5.25 kgs of fish fingers from a 21 kg goonj.
The biggest mistake I did in Ropar was to share my knowledge with the local anglers and then the goonj there went shy.
Will get to her again – Nov 1st and 2nd week is the time to get them.
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Crazy Pic and nice writ up Ham... i agree with you... have some wild goonch pics i need to scan and upload...

As far as the wels catfish goes, I once witnessed 2 guys bait out winch cable with a full chicken in a lake near my apt. Left it there all night and pulled out the largest fish i had ever seen... the hook the used was bigger than my foot (size 9)!!! The wels catfish they landed could have easily swallowed a 5 year old and not burped!

In france it was against the law to release them once caught!


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Askari sports , Germany, has some great video's of Catzilla fishing -2m 150kg Wels are regulars...


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IG,

Northern India would mean colder water? Cause the goonch we have in Pakistan are in the warmer water. Whats the primary habitat they survive in.....

How do they fight????


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I've come across goonch in jus about all mahseer waters... basically a cool waters with a high oxygen content... don't know if they migrate with the seasons. Will try to find that out though.

Up here, they can be found in just about every river in the terai, but i don't think they prefer 'trout country'!

Never seen one come out of really warm waters, and I don't think they have them down south. I might be wrong on this though...


Back in the days of the raj was a different story though... there is picture in a book of a 150 lbs goonch caught and landed in Okhla, Delhi... but that was sometime in the 1800s'. think its the Rod in India... can't remember!!! There are even reports of Mahseer being caught here. Today, sadly there is nothing at Okhla... not even bacteria. Only thing in the waters: plastic bags and heavy metals!


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Goonch belongs to Sisoridae family. There are many species of this family found in subcontinent and are commonly known as 'Khagga" in Pakistan (dont know what they are called in India). Some of them are even found in freezing cold waters. About 12 different types of Khaggas are found in Pakistan (Reference: Dr Nazir's book "Freshwater Fish of Pakistan"). Goonch is the one with camouflage colours, something like the army uniforms. That is why it is called 'Fauji Khagga' in Punjab. Most other large size Sisorides are brown or gray in colour. I havent heard of Fauji Khaggas from cold areas of Pakistan, though certain other types of Khaggas are found (mostly of small size) in the mountains.


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Well, Species clarification aside, IGFA world records for Goonch and the Shovelnose Catfish are free if anybody wants set out with certified scales and the ail of setting a benchmark.

http://www.jjphoto.dk/fish_archive/a_intro201.htm


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Thats a great incentive indeed. :D However, one may find IGFA documentation procedures more cumbersome than designing a rocket engine. :evil:


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I have a video on wells cats. It's mostly brute force required to get them in. Seems like if they are below you, they are virtually impossible to raise. Some strange methods employed in catching them in Italy.


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Not all ichthyologist consider bagrius bagrius and bagrius yarelli seperate species. According to my research and analysis there are two factors to consider as for distribution of this species in Indus system which are causing confusion for you guys.

Goonch is also a migratory species just like mahseer. And has important predator and prey relation with mahseer. But goonch migrates to much lower reaches of rivers then mahseer does and for longer time in cold months. The main reason it is not found above mangla and tarbela is that this species is not able to move upstream due to construction of these two dams.

Second factor is creation of various man made constructs in lower reaches of river which provide suitable habitat for this species.

Goonch is fish eating species and grow to maximum length of 2 meters and 250 pounds in weight. Compared to mahseer which has been recorded up to 3 meters in length. I have seen goonch of 80 Kg caught in gill net at head rasool on jehlum river in 1994.

Goonch is capeable of living in extremely polluted water (It is still found in river ravi at lahore). It has capability to stay out of water for long time.

As for attacking humans i have come across incident when great white sheatfish (mullee) attacked foot of this angler and gave nasty wound.


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btw ... catfishing with stinkbaits is quite a thing in united states. We should have seperate thread for catfishing as well


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Hi,
I made this ring -its a piston ring of a vehicle engine.Then same length of lead I moulded of pencil thickness . Curved the lead to the shape of the piston ring and tied the two together with elastic. I then put about 8 pins through the elastic and cut the pins blunt. The rear of the pin got a bit of adhesive and the job was done. the snap closure is a bit of wire. Now put this on to the line and it goes down fast -and straight on to the face of the Goonj. Once the ring is in place she loses her abality to think whats happening and only avoids the blunt pins which do not dig in ,but keep irritating. hereafter the goonj is a dead weight and is rather easy to handle.She is the only fish which elongated my 30 lb mono berk big game line .
Here in Punjab we have then in the warmer waters though during summer they move up. Population is pretty hvy in the Beas but they are super smart. You get these baby goonj on your hooks and thats what proves their population.
The first run is sustained and powerful - about 20 days back the goonj took away one fandi wala (D'pur--Yamuna)and while I was fishing there the relatives were all there waiting for the body to rise.
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Hammy, that's the strangest method yet :lol:


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Gentlemen sorry for replying late. Actually I think I did not post correctly presuming you would know how the phandiwalas operate. They at Dadhopur come down in inflated tubes in pairs at night . Between the tubes these guys have a loop line/net and let it brush against the floor of the river.It is believed they take away a lot of fish and since the river is shallow –it is also difficult for the fish to dive down to avoid. Phandi is a loop made out of line(stiff type – like our XT grade) or then earlier it used to be 10 strands of horse tail hair-twisted together and then made into a loop which always remains opened up, till something tries to go through it. .For weight they use a couple of potatoes –it rolls well along the ground. It was one of these guys who got the goonj and his pair fellow also could not save him-The goonj just rushed down to the falls below –through the arches and down the waterfall slope and then disappeared.
This is one incident that is true for I saw their entire clan mourning and waiting .Next days stories would be bigger and better.
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interesting methods. But of course then thats not sport fishing, handy capping the fight of a fish :?: .

The thrill of landing a Fish the fight. the anxiety that the line may snap. the mates intrigue wether its a big one. Thats goes unmatched.

Hope you'll agree. :roll:


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