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 Post subject: Ratnagiri
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:55 am 
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We went on a trip around Ratnagiri, it was more of a fun trip than some real fishing since it was a introduction to lure fishing for Young Angler. The rains were intermittent water condition was fair.
Day 1,
Fishing from the old jetty. Young Angler happy to be a part of the team.
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Abi casting from the jetty.
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Myself casting from the jetty.
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Abhi catch on redhead f-14.
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I got a strike however unable to control the fish, it went straight for the rocks making my reel scream. Abhi from behind kept on shouting move back!!!! Rod up!!! All I knew was who is fishing whom???? Then abhi takes over to yank the fish out form the rocks. At the end we gave up and cut the line.

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I am expressing my anguish!!!

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Iam smiling at the goof up.

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Then abhi took us to a rivulet and showed us the behavior of a snapper.

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We then went trolling.

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Iam sure u guys had a good time..... :D


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Well done,you had a good time and caught fish.Thats all that matters


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It seems you guys had a lot of fun. Nice pics mate.

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Tato, you lucky dude.. :)


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Nice report, looks like ya'll had loads of fun!

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Hey cool pics! Thanks for sharing.
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Wonderful pics. Must have been an excellent outing.
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Nice Fish. Hope you had a lot of fun.

Got to love those Mangroves.

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Hi All Fellow Anglers, I need not say much as Tathagata has already given a nice briefing, all I have to say is that I did not do any fishing since I did not have the kind of tackle required for the purpose, but I merrily enjoyed the trip and learnt how lure fishing for the first time, next time I will be back with them with full might.


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Hi T,

Ratnagiri looks good. Every time I see pictures of the west coast south of Mubai, I wonder weather I chose the Wrong part of the country to settle down.
Wonderful pictures and great location .


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Thanks everyone for the words of encouragement, Day 2 pics are yet to arrive...


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hey Tats....thats incredible writeup mate...:)
keep them comin'

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Day 2,
We decided unanimously to do rock fishing. Since it was raining heavily we decided hit three places within a time frame of 4 hrs.

Location 1: BalaMama (Badlapurs’s Shivda King) gets the first strike (Snapper) Abhi gets the second strike (Snapper) meanwhile I am setting up my gear. The game was over as soon as it started, the sea was getting very rough and it was getting very difficult to cast due to winds.

Location 2: I got the first strike (Grouper) meanwhile Abhi and BalaMama has gone to the cliff. I am unhooking the fish and then I hear “Hey!!! Hey!!! Hey!!!” Abhi’s rod is bent and his reel is screeming with the drag set to 0. We then start running towards him to prevent him from falling off the cliff. We then saw the GT heading straight to the rocks then there was silence for 30 sec, it started to run again. By this time Abhi’s eyes were dilated and he started to pump the fish. The line went dead again then suddenly the GT started to run straight to the sea, he again started to pump and then SNAP!!!!! The leader wire again slipped from the sleeves. The GT gone with the Popper. He then takes my rod and started casting BAM!! Before Abhi could start retrieving the grouper, the crank handle started to rotate as fish was pulling line from the spool. Abhi shouted “KIA KARTA HAI ANTI REVERSE KO ON RAKHTA HAI” the grouper has headed straight to the rocks. Abhi has lost the interest since it’s a grouper, the grouper made a second run Abhi nonchalantly started to pump, it again went to rocks he then handed me the rod and let the line loose and waited for the fish to run. YEEHA!!! This time no mercy yanked the pain out off the water. Abhi is smiling again.

Days Count : 12

BalaMama and Me

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Hi Guys,

Thanks for sharing your trip with fellow IAs..

The posting is a Very good account of your fun filled trip..well described and supported with lovely snaps..( Men and the fishes)..


Keep it up..make more such trips and keep posting them for the good of fellow anglers who are not so lucky to take off on such trips.


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Hi THATHAGATA!
Good catch. Keep catchin and postin.
Is the spotted one GROUPER ?


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Nice stuff Tha'ta,

keep it up.


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Hey Tato, Nice pics.. :)


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Good catch, were all caught on plugs?


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Hi T,

Great action!. You said the sea was rough and rain was on. I have also experienced such hectic action in rough weather from the shore. Two points.
1. The high waves stir up the shore and flush out small fish and crabs out of their hiding places
2. More importantly supports Bops theory on low pressure better catches. THe low pressure, I remember reading somewhere, deflates the air bladder of the fish thereby creating an empty feeling and craving for food ??

Of course rough weather in fair season defnitely not during the mansoon!


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2. More importantly supports Bops theory on low pressure better catches. THe low pressure, I remember reading somewhere, deflates the air bladder of the fish thereby creating an empty feeling and craving for food ??


First off all, as fish live under water which is many times dencer than air, air pressure changes would be very unlikely to have any effect on a fish's swim bladder.
Even if you were talking about fish like mudskippers that do most of their feeding out of the water, a drop in ambient air pressure would actually cause the swimbladder to expand rather than contract and would therefor have the opposite effect to the one that you describe.

I'm not entirely dismissing your observations, just suggesting that you look to an alternative mechanism to explain them.
You might want to look to the reduced light levels or increased turbidity associated with low pressure systems as a possible reason for increased catched as this will bring fish that would normally stay well clear of beaches into range durring daylight hours.


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Hi Ken,

I realise the folly in my theory about the swim bladder. I persume the high pressure here in the gulf has effected my brain rather!

Well, I do remember reading about the relation between fish feeding pattern and pressure many years ago. The swim bladder also came into the picture some where.
Will get back on that once I get a little more time to study this.

I am shure it wouldnt take much time for our friends from the site to shed more light on this subject .


Tight lines,


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Ken !!

It didnt take too long !

Effects on Fish

There are no definitive answers for how a rising or falling barometer affects fish. In fact, this is one influence that marine biologists and ichthyologists have studied least. However, most marine biologists and ichthyologists do agree that fish sense pressure changes through their air bladders. Most also believe that fish without air bladders sense pressure change through their lateral lines.

The lateral line system found in many fishes is the sensory unit of the species, which is sensitive to the difference in water pressure. Even a minor barometric pressure change affects a fish's swim bladder. The general theories are that when the barometric pressure rises, it exerts pressure upon the bladder, thus affecting their behavior and appetite.

When the barometric pressure is dropping, there is less pressure on the fish's bladder, which means there is less pressure squeezing on the bladder, causing it to expand. When their bladders expand, fish feel the discomfort and don't concern themselves with feeding as much. When the barometric pressure is steady and holding at around 30.00 inches for at least 24 to 48 hours, either after a high or low-pressure system has passed, the fish become stabilized and begin feeding aggressively. During this period, the weather is usually fair, winds are light, and may remain that way for several days, or until the next low pressure system moves into the area.

Just before a low-pressure system is about to move into an area, the fish can sense that the barometer is about to drop. Since they know that it won't be long before their bellies will begin to ache, they will often go on an intense feeding binge until the pressure drops.

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This is getting really interesting.

I wonder how some of you guys actually find the time to study all this. :shock:

Either way this has got my interest & will probably do some reading myself.

thanks for the input.


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I've read some of that stuff before. It always makes me wonder who puts it all together. Most anglers fish when they get the chance and don't spend 20 minutes worrying over a barograph (barometer readings over time) before deciding to chuck the fishing gear back in the cupboard and wait for a better day.
With so many more relevant influences on the fishing that I get to do in India, like tide, moon phase. turbidity, wave height etc, the barometric pressure doesn't even come into the eqation.
Besides, it's always warm and sunny when I'm over there. ;)


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Hi Ken,

Its that English thing is it ?. No body here walks around with a barometre checking the atmospheric pressure before setting out to toss a line.
The relevance of pressure on fish behaviour, though of the least significance in order following tide, moonphase ect, still cannot be ignored as a topic related to angling.

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No body here walks around with a barometre checking the atmospheric pressure before setting out to toss a line

Glad to hear it !

The ";)" was there because I only ever get to visit India in what is your dry season and our frigid winter, so, yes, it's always (well, nearly always) warm and sunny.
Pressure might have more relevance now when the weather is much more changeable - especially if you have access to boats and need to decide whether to fish the inshore creaks or go offshore and fish deep water.

Just remember that most of the published findings about the links between fishing and air pressure have been done by American anglers and from what I've read from those guys on AnglersNet who have also monitored such things, their findings are almost the exact opposite of those of the folks on the other side of the Atlantic.


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prakash wrote:
Hi THATHAGATA!
Good catch. Keep catchin and postin.
Is the spotted one GROUPER ?


Yes Its a grouper. But not a big one.


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Good catch, were all caught on plugs?


All of them were caught using Rapala Magnum F-14, lost a GT on Popper.


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Tat,

What popper where you using? For Gt don't use a wire leader. 100lb mono would do. And if you do want to use wire, crimp two sleeves a couple of inches apart.


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Interesting topic on air pressure..............thanks for the informations.

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What popper where you using? For Gt don't use a wire leader. 100lb mono would do. And if you do want to use wire, crimp two sleeves a couple of inches apart.
Jeen


About the popper Abhi will be in a better position to answer however I will definitely look into the mono idea. As for your observation regarding rough sea, I guess you are correct since on a calmer day we do get big catches however count is low. On a rough day its all game.

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Hey Tato, Mark 20th Oct.. ;)


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hey lets hit badlapur and blast the place this sunday....... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


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hey lets hit badlapur and blast the place this sunday....... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


already packed my tackle box with some Atomic lures.. :lol:

Shall we title the trip report for Sunday "DA BOOOM" ??? :twisted: :wink:


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Dont forget Mr Earthworm-Magic when all else fails


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Yes Doc point noted.. will also carry some Earth moving Dirty Bombs.. [smilie=grinz.gif]


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Hey some fun over the vashi bridge

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Yehw! I hate catfish.


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U bet ken


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Tato, next time don't take your rod there.. trust me, you'll repent if you ignore this.. :x

Yes Ken I to hate them & I blame it on IA ..:mrgreen: (when I started fishing, they were a priced catch.. :oops:) ..


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They're sporting fish if they're a reasonable size.
It's the fact that you can't get awy from them that does my head in.
Cast out, tighten the line, put the ror in a holder and taptap, tap, taptap, strike, wind in and yes, a 10" catty has taken your perfectly presented sardine or mullet. The only thing I like to catch less are morays ! Snappy little ********s


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Ken,

I see you have never met Mr Turtle. Cats and morays will be a welcome change then.

All that is in the past for me. Now I am back deep into the fish. :D :D


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Is there any way to avoid hooking into a Moray? Will it help to float fish a bait instead of ledgering?


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Santosh!

Why are you against taking a rod to the bridge? just very curious about this.


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I see you have never met Mr Turtle.


Ah but I have. My record was about 15kg's and caught in Turkey.
I'm not sure whether you only get the species of turtle caught by Mr Wade in the Jungle hooks serise, but if you do, you're lucky. The boy that I caught was activly tring to take my hand off and I was very glad of the 10" forceps that I had for hook removal.


Bops. As far as I know, the only way to minimise contact with morays is to fish over clean sand. Unfortunatly, this puts you away from lots of other fish as well.


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Hi Ken,

Fishing of the bridge is not permitted; you can possibly lose your tackle if you get caught.


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Those morays are a real PIA :evil: This is what they do and it's close to impossible to get them off the hook without killing them.

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Are these any good as bait for other fish?


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