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 Post subject: Hilsa
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:13 am 
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To all you fishing pundits, can someone please tell me if the Hilsa is still caught in the waters of the Ganges and other waters. I believe this fish was available to the consumer and caught in the Ganges from October to January, and was an excellent table fish. Do you know it's origin and migratory pattern and what the locals called it, if it had been given names other than Hilsa? Any light you can throw on this species will be most welcome.
Thanking you in anticipation of a speedy answer.
Cheers,
Glenn


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:38 am 
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I have heard from a friend that the Sundarbans have a lot of Hilsa. This guy is into tigers and keeps making trips down there. But he is not really clued on to fishing so can't be sure.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:04 pm 
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Hi,

In Assam we call it Ilish. They are found in the rivers. In Assam Hilsas are imported from Kanpur. But they are not the best ones. The best ones are found in a place or a water body called Podda in Bangladesh. Very very tasty. Too many fine bones. Tastes best when baked with mustard paste and green chilli. The fish eating bengalis are the best to comment on this. Maybe Gav will be able to give some information as the best hilsas are found in the fish markets at Kolkata (even if he does not like to eat one)

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:20 pm 
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What you just discribed made me cry. It has been too long that I have had a 'bhapda illish mach'. Oooooooooooooooo :shock: :shock: :shock: :D


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:27 pm 
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What Apoo said is right... Its called ILISH in this part of the world and has about a million bones in them.. Too painful to eat, but the Bongs can eat it very very efficiently..
Its about 180 bucks a kg but an eternal favourite with the Bongs... Method of preparation is already mentioned by Apoo...

Have eaten it quite a number of times and believe me, it is blooody amazing.. You guys are missing something...

Glenn - Come to Cal and the "Ilish maach" treat is on me !!


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:46 pm 
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Hi Gav,

Can you post a Pic of this bugger? The Eel..

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Bruce


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:49 pm 
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Same as the `palla` from the Indus and the sindhis relish it.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:06 pm 
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I've had the ilish in mustard paste-in Kolkata and right here at home-Have a bong cook-my daughter already lisps bong!
Damn the bones -that is one awesome dish with mustard. :-) :D


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 Post subject: hilsa
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:21 pm 
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well ilish is an integral part of bongs...
yes they still caught in the water of ganges, in da monsoon seasons,
bongs prepare them in many ways, fried, boiled with mastard paste(thats called paturi), boiled with spices while packed in banana leaf(thats called bhapa), cooked with mastard paste to form a curry of hilsa(thats sorshe ilish)...hilsa and mastard goes along not only well, they compliments each other...
all of the hilsa u get here in kolkata market is ice-dried
had live hilsa once at a coastal place called chandipur, orissa
one more thing i'd like to add "has anyone caught them?"

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 Post subject: Hilsa
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:14 pm 
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Hi Gavin, thanks for the invitation! May yet take you up on your offer! You, Doc Saiki and I eh? Must take Doc along incase the bones lodge in da throat!!
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Glenn


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:13 pm 
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glen come o'er...no pain no gain, some restos here serve boneless hilsa also, so don't worry at all
c ya
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 Post subject: Your Invitation!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:05 pm 
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Thanks Doc for your invitation. Yep, we will have the boneless one!And wash it down with a Kingfisher!!
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Glenn


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:41 pm 
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Somebody will do me a big favour if they post a picture of the HILSA, in Bombay we have a saltwater Moray Eel that locals call Hissan, a little further down the coast it is called Hilssan and even further Hilsa.

It is bown with specks of black on it and can grow quite large, like most salt water eels the blood has a very funny smell that puts me off. Very boney fish.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:44 pm 
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Bobster - Have got a pic of the Hilsa in the image gallery under the thread "katla from bengal" :lol: :lol:

Thanks OMO.... :P


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:57 pm 
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Gav you have pulled your last favour. No more posting on your behalf :lol:
Now that you know how to resize and post, i hope you will be doing this by yourself from now on.(Bops i gave him online help)
Bobby, Gav took this picture of Hilsa in a pot off the net, and says they are cheap ones 150/- a kg. The expensive ones cost 500/- per kg.
Bloody half bong, how the hell does he know whether they are good or bad without smelling them. :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:03 pm 
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Is this the same fish as the Palla?

I love the palla and eat it very efficiently. Especially the roe, fried in a bananna leaf. Bones, shmones nothing mate just a treat..

The Palla I am referring to are caught in Salt Water.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:56 pm 
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Hi Bobby!
The hilsa is an estuary fish, so who knows it may be the same.
Do you have any pix of the Palla for comparison ?
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Owen


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:39 pm 
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Hi Owen,

No I do not, but will get a picture from somewhere.

I will go to the Market here sometime and get a picture. May be Fred can help here, all he got to do is make a right from his gate and take a picture.

Fred, can you post that picture?

Bobby


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:39 pm 
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there is a pix of a hilsa in another thread titled 'hilsa'. hurry a few crazy bongs are after them


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:42 pm 
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Years ago The Oberoi Grand Hotel in Calcutta served a smoked hilsa in the coffee shop. No bones in the fillet. The Chef never told me how he made the fillet.

Another option for those uninitiated to eating Hilsa is to have the fish cut 'Bangla Style' which seperates the abdominal portion called 'peti' from the vertibrate portion called'gada'. The Peti has a few bones is fatty easy to handle and tasty. The 'gada' is far too bony for those not used to eating bony fish.

If you are planning on this gastronomical freakout mustard paste and all, do buy a fish closer to 2 kg than 1 kg. Less bones and more tasty.

BTW my fish vendor in Bangalore air freights Hilsa from Calcutta and sells it for Rs.350/- a kg.

Long live the Hilsa!! Hopefully us Bongs will allow that to happen!

Outrigorsandeep


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 10:09 pm 
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@sandeep...dude hilsa tastes best when they weighs between 1.2-1.5 kgms...over than that it's become a bit tasteless...
one more thing i'd like to add, due to rapid poaching (people catching smaller hilsa in large quantities...)...their number is decreasing day after day....
if you learn a person how to eat fish...he'll empty the sea... :( :( :(


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:34 am 
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This thread really got a bee in my bonnet.

In my desperation managed to get some Hilsa from Cal sent to my place here in Hong Kong, anticipating a gastronomic feast!

Any suggestions on how I should prepare them?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:58 pm 
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Gav, Saiki and their friends from Kolkata would be the best person for this. Even Outrigorsandeep will know about it.
All the best [smilie=yum.gif]


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:37 pm 
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bobster...i'm sorry to say, i'm not a good cook of hilsa :(
if ya wanna kno then i can ask my mom... :(
n send via email
regards


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:21 pm 
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Bobby wrote:
This thread really got a bee in my bonnet.

In my desperation managed to get some Hilsa from Cal sent to my place here in Hong Kong, anticipating a gastronomic feast!

Any suggestions on how I should prepare them?


Bobster dude if at the moment you have a been in your bonnet, you are also going to have bones in your throat once you eat those mothers.
I have never seen another fish with so many tiny bones.
Your household will curse you to kingdom come dude. :lol:
Either cancel the order and get some seer fish or dump the lot :lol: :lol: :lol:


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