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 Post subject: Vertical Jigging
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:10 am 
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Hi!

Anybody doing vertical jigging around here????
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:50 pm 
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Hi

I have used Jigging as a method to catch fish but only in the Sea, I have done it in England, California and in Andamans and have caught a lot of fish with it.

I have nevery tried it in a lake or a river, I do have a Jig Float and Bell sinkers but never tried maybe I will try this weekend in Galibore, will give you a report.

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Hi Tacklebox,

Also why dont you post an Introduction in the Introduction section.

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Derek Dsouza


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:14 pm 
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Did try it once at Bhakra in the winter. But had no luck. I think having a fish finder would have increased my chances as the lake is very big.


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:10 pm 
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Mahaseerken wrote:
I think having a fish finder would have increased my chances as the lake is very big.


Yes your right with the Fish Finder, both in the UK and the US it was organised fishing and had built in fish finders on it, but in Andamans I didnt have one but the Boat chaps knew where to fish.


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With the lack of good fishing boats in India, you would be hard pressed to find anglers that jig on a regular basis. Trolling and spinning are the techniques that we favour here.

Bopanna


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Electronic or biological! a fish finder is a fish finder.


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 12:43 am 
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Gosh!

I talking about jigging in the sea, not in a lake?

But that's all right, we can try the same formula in the lake as well and see what are the results??

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:05 am 
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Hi Tackle bloke,

We do a lot of jigging with heavy set up braid, jigs 60 to 200 gms, strong rods, reels and a permenant back ache. Target fish- GT, Dog Tooth Tunas,
and such toothy critters.


Tight lines Jeen


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Hi T Bloke,

There are no Dog tooth tunas in the UAE. Most jiging we do is in the Maldives and Oman.




Jeen


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 Post subject: Vertical Jigging
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 2:12 am 
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Hi Jeen,

I just received two accurate, 870N and 665XN and a daiwa reel, and near completion two slow tapered PE5 customed build for the accurates and Daiwa Kix 4000 spinning. A medium outfit for vertical jigging up to 250g

Upon completion of both rods, I would like to bring it out for field testing. I have also ordered CTS jigging blanks as well, they should arrive from NZ by next month and will start work on that to get it completed quickly for a field trial all together. The next mission is to find the fish.

I noted vertical jigging is not popular around Dubai or Abu Dhabi. You may like to point me out over this area. Is there any good sunken wrecks to start with around Dubai or Abu Dhabi? but I guess this is pretty new here and equipment is kind of a shortfall as they are not available in tackle shops here, that could be the lack of popularity here.

I did seen some good size GT in musandam landed and released with poppers. The same spots if given the opportunity to jig would be more interesting as the fish maybe anything between bottom to the top. This will certainly give you the run all the way.

As the summer kicks in, is it any good to go off shore fishing, the fishes migrate into cooler water. This will mean further distance from the shore. Please enlighten, as I have not tried summer fishing in UAE.

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Tacklebloke
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 5:38 pm 
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Hi Bloke,

Good to see some serious juice on the site. Well I got into popping and jigging only since the last couple of years. I still jig with my Gt gear the Stella 10000 & carpenter rod or sometimes a smaller Daiwa Saltiga Z 4500 wich has a slightly lower gear ratio than the stella,when I get tired of popping the Big poppers.
Iam still toying with the idea of a Ocea jigger or a Saltiga Jigging reel . The Accurate twin spin looks good too. As for the fishing off Abu Dhabi where I am , we have a couple of Wrecks some 40 to 50 miles out . The depth is under 20 meters this means the fish are further out closerto the Iranian waters in Summer also the heat is so bad with near 100% humidity we never dare to take the boat out. My boats fuel tank capacity is only 110 Gallons ( mistake when I got it Made). Iam in the process of fixing an additional tank and changing the outboards to 4 stroke to increase our range.

So hold on, the new season is going to be very exciting trust me.

The species we get in Abu Dabi jigging are Cobias, Tevallies, Golden & orange spotted, Barracudas, Snappers , Groupers and stuff. You mentioned N. Zeland - Three king Islands any time?

Any way will talk more on tackle later


Jeen,


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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:27 am 
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Hi Jeen,

Nice to see another crazy jigger round the corner, about 175km apart.

There is some good spot at Musamdam for big GTs, no need for Three Kings, NZ. Got some mates who went there with ChrisW and have hell of a trip. They captured some of their moments and cut into into a commercial CD, a copy is with me. Could sent you a copy if you can PM me your PO Box.

You should seriously consider Ocea jigger or a Torium for vertical jigging. I have two accurates with me, and is dying to get it run-in soon, after I complete the whole outfit. I am trying to land my hand on the latest Progear also....which is alot cheaper with similiar performance with accurates, I was told.

20-30m is a little shallow for vertical jigging in flat current, also depending on the current flow, with stronger currents, bigger jigs tend to find the way down faster, but the retrival may seem a little too short. Further to that, I was told that there is some vertical run-off some 10-15km off from Dubai or Abu Dhabi, which may be excellent jigging spots, got to explore the conditions. BTW if you are aware of such terrain, do let me know.
I will try to get a motion smith chart to confirm these locations

Cheers

Tacklebloke :wink:


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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 10:41 am 
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Hi TB


Musundum is a likely jigging spot too. I been there quite afew times over the past years . Me and some of my pals have been exploring the terrain for a while now. Only since last year we started popping for GTS there.
I was there early this month with my sons on ocean active's boat and we caught a few GTs . Small ones check image gallery.

I would love to see the DVD you have . Appretiate if you could mail me a copy to P.O. Box 27975 Abu Dhabi.


Tight lines

Jeen


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:54 pm 
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Hi Jeen,

Will forward you the Disc in a day or two.
They talk about various techniques and modifications as well. 8)

I be ordering some rods and blanks from the agent soon.

Cheers
Tackle bloke


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:20 pm 
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Hey TB,

what plans for the weekend since the storm moving towards iran ?

Probable do a night trip on Friday, but not sure since I havent checked the tide.

Btw, I'm still waiting for my copies of the cd. will buzz u in the eveing.


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Keyur wrote:
Hey TB,

what plans for the weekend since the storm moving towards iran ?

Probable do a night trip on Friday, but not sure since I havent checked the tide.

Btw, I'm still waiting for my copies of the cd. will buzz u in the eveing.


It is ready, just give me a call.....tacklebloke


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:36 pm 
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Hi Jeen,

It should be on way to you!

My rod is ready and will try out by end of this month.
Hope the fish in the Gulf is just as exciting.


Cheers
Tacklebloke :D


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Hi Jeen,

I believe now the CD should arrive, happy viewing.

cheers

tacklebloke :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:10 pm 
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Hi TB,

Thanks for the discs.I thouroughly enjoyed it. THe light jigging rods were really impressieve. I have a couple of Shimano Trevallas butterfly jigging rods which are similar to the jigging master rods on the video. Liked the knots too. Iam more into the mid Knot and sometimes also use the Bimini on the braid to form a loop to loop on the 200 Lb mono leader.

THanks a ton

Tight lines jeen


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:08 am 
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Hey tacklebloke,

I've done a bit of jigging out in the Andmans.... hardly scatched the surface, but had some doggies, wahoo, snapper, rusty jobfish and a mother of a potato cod.

Will be concentrating on some jigging when I head back, so will keep you guys posted on how we do.

Regards,

Mighty Marlin.


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Mighty Marlin,

The Andaman Seas exact, which part are you normally jigging from.

Doggies, wahoo, snapper, rusty jobfish and a mother of a potato cod are superb specie for vertical jigging. I have a group of friends whom are hard cores are looking for the unstoppable. If your locations do present these large fish, I would appreciate you drop me some photos and contacts for them to get in touch with. I might pop in to join them if they are willing to give a try.

Cheers

Tacklebloke :wink:


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Jeen,

Nice to hear you enjoyed the DVD!

If you happen to have a chance to go for GTs at Musandam, do let me know in advance. I like to join in as I have contacted Nick and was told that they are unlike the party boat as in California. You have to form your group to get going...

Anyway keep the post coming...it is now summer and I be going for a boat trip from Sharjah this Sat and see how the fishing is like in Summer Heat.

Cheers

Tackle bloke


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:11 pm 
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Hi T Bloke,

Yes mate. Ill let you know when I go to Musundum next. I dont think this would be before mid october. I personnaly feel the fish would move into region by late SEpt and also the weather would be more favourable then for our kind of fishing popping and jigging which is heavy work.
AS for Nick's boat 3 persons can fish comfortably 4 is a crowd. I would be with my son which means the expense casn be shared i.e. 800 bucks per head.

I am planning a trip with my son to Egypt in mid August to try the red sea. You interested. Or alternatively can you suggest any other destination either on the East coast of Africa ..places like Kilwa, Madagascar, etc or THe East like Thailand, Indonesia or even Taiwan. I realise the weather is an issue in all these places. THe monsoon & the westerlies. Any ideas??


Tight lines
Jeen


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 Post subject: Vertical Jigging
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What is Vertical Jigging can anyone let me know
as I have no clues about it healp me to learn something new...


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:40 pm 
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Do a quick google search and you'll get started. Then get the problem parts explained by the gurus out here.


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Hi Prasanth,

Vertical Jigging is very simple. I can see some of our friends already gloating over the prospect of the usage in non angling terms !!

well, back on the subject. Vertical jigging involves locating a school of fish mostly predators in the ocean which hang around wrecks and drop off ledges with the help of a fish finder. Once you locate the fish you use either a spinning set up or a overhead reel set up depending on your taste to drop a metal lure straight down into the fish zone . THe metal lure is called a jig which could vary from 40 gms to 400 gms depending on the depth and force of lateral current. THe greater the current and depth the heavier the jig used. Typical Line would be about 40 to 100 Lb braid connected to a 100 to 200 lb leader either mono or occationally wire. THe leader is connected to the jig using a split ring ,solid ring connection. Once the Lure is persumed to be in the strike zone, (Some of the japanese braid used for jigging come with different colour every meter so that the angler can count the the depth down to roughly the depth shown on the fish finder), The next step is the retrieve, It could be fast or slow , generally fast . You use an upward jerk of the rod to gain line and reel in the slack . jerk, reel, jerk reel ,jerk reel and so on.
The method is very productive and great sport. THere are a lot of specialised reels and rods available these days as the sport is becoming more and more popular now. However the technique is rather old and was used by the japanese traditionally to pull up fish from the deep.


Tight Lines
Jeen


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Jeen!

100 to 200 lbs!!!!!!!!?????? That's vertical rock climbing. hahahhahaha

You can also Vertical jig for smaller freshwater species - bass, walleye, trout even mahseer. This is done mainly in winter when the fish are at the bottom.


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 Post subject: Vertical Jigging
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Thanks Jeen U made ma day...... :lol:


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Hi Ken,

Me a salty at heart so the heavy gear. THanks for covering the fresh water part of it.


Tight Lines,

Jeen


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 Post subject: Vertical Jigging
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HEY Ken & Jeen right now m watching some Vertical Jigging videos in the sea on youtube nice style of angling yaar....


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Jeen!

Size has nothing to do with it??!!?? hahahaha

I was into rock climbing and the figures you put down are really from there. But mate I want to get out there with heavy gear like that. One day one day.


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HI Ken,

Go Google yourself for :- jigging for dog tooth tuna , terminal tackle and stuff . HA HA HA


Jeen


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jeen wrote:
Hi T Bloke,

Yes mate. Ill let you know when I go to Musundum next. I dont think this would be before mid october. I personnaly feel the fish would move into region by late SEpt and also the weather would be more favourable then for our kind of fishing popping and jigging which is heavy work.
AS for Nick's boat 3 persons can fish comfortably 4 is a crowd. I would be with my son which means the expense casn be shared i.e. 800 bucks per head.

I am planning a trip with my son to Egypt in mid August to try the red sea. You interested. Or alternatively can you suggest any other destination either on the East coast of Africa ..places like Kilwa, Madagascar, etc or THe East like Thailand, Indonesia or even Taiwan. I realise the weather is an issue in all these places. THe monsoon & the westerlies. Any ideas??


Tight lines
Jeen


Jeen

I will join you on the next trip to Musandam sometime in Oct. Wanted to try the GTs on jigs....I will continue to build several spinning and multiper outfit with CTS, JM and Matagi blanks (Where I am placing an order soon). So that I fit out according to what I need. :cry:

I am waiting for Mighty Marlin to reply...maybe we can all join to go together with teams from Singapore, Taiwan, Japan where all the characters in the DVD will be standing right infront of you. 8) These boys are looking for some unstoppable specie....potatoes cod and submarines...and a whole lot of fun. :idea: OH!.....BIGG!.......

Cheers

Tacklebloke


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Mighty Marlin,

The Andaman Seas exact, which part are you normally jigging from.

Doggies, wahoo, snapper, rusty jobfish and a mother of a potato cod are superb specie for vertical jigging. I have a group of friends whom are hard cores are looking for the unstoppable. If your locations do present these large fish, I would appreciate you drop me some photos and contacts for them to get in touch with. I might pop in to join them if they are willing to give a try.

Cheers

Tacklebloke :wink:


Hey Tacklebloke,

We're basically fishing structure (deep reefs) and drop offs between 80 to a 100 meters. Looking to see what comes up on the sounder most of the time. Like I said we just scratched the surface and it's a fascinating way to fish. Will keep you posted on how we do.

Tightlines,

Mighty Marlin.


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Mighty Marlin,

That should be good place to start with....with depth of 80m to 100m you should be getting big specimens.

The gulf is quite shallow expect for some sand holes created by the recremation projects and drop offs some 10 to 15km off the coast. Other than that generally it goes about 35m to 50m depth on natural terrain. That can be quite exciting if the place is populated with fish and wreaks. Otherwise it will not take afew minutes for the jigs to reach mid depth. :roll:

Do let us know your catch ?

Cheers

Tackle bloke :wink:


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Hi All,

Went jigging today off Sharjah and Ajman coast, about 25km off.

Water depth on average 35 to 40m....Actually it is quite hard to jig, with the high speed reel, the jig came back up in less than 25 turns. I reckon for 120g jigging should be done about 50m to 75m or slightly more. Should go for smaller jigs due to shallow depth.

It is just too shallow and need to find some deep spots tyres or wreak reef. Plenty of Cudas, bottom fishing yield good results but most got snatch by the Cudas.

Tackle bloke


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tacklebloke wrote:
Mighty Marlin,

That should be good place to start with....with depth of 80m to 100m you should be getting big specimens.

The gulf is quite shallow expect for some sand holes created by the recremation projects and drop offs some 10 to 15km off the coast. Other than that generally it goes about 35m to 50m depth on natural terrain. That can be quite exciting if the place is populated with fish and wreaks. Otherwise it will not take afew minutes for the jigs to reach mid depth. :roll:

Do let us know your catch ?

Cheers

Tackle bloke :wink:


Tackle bloke,

For you..... caught on jig

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Regards,

Mighty Marlin.


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Hi MM,

Nice doggie! got a weight on it?


Jeen


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Just received couple of Williamson Benthos Speed Jigs (5 oz).
Will be using them sometime soon for some drop off fishing (from land) :-)

Maruthu


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MM you are heart less I am going on 2nd month no strike!!! By the way its sure is a big boy..... :-)


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Thanks MM

That's a nice doggy! Got a series of new JM powerspell coming to Dubai.
That's for eliminating the back breaking job of jigging. Focus shifted to OMAN now.

Another very interesting jig....pro-jig! Some are available here.
Good hits with travelly family.

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Cheers

TB

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