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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 6:49 pm 
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Does any of you have any experience in fishing for mahseer in lakes?

I'm contemplating taking a lake on lease and releasing Tor Khudree in it for the purpose of angling.


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 12:27 am 
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Hey there Bops,

I used to catch alot of mahseer, mostly redfin(Tor Tor) but also some yellowfins(Tor Putitora) in Rawal Dam, a small dam near Islamabad. After extremely poor management and adverse weather patterns mahseer are now rare in that lake.

Anyway, mahseer do fine in lakes especially if they have a stream entering it, so that they can breed in it.

As for techniques, we used to get most of them on plain atta with no groundbait (groundbaiting attracted more carp than mahseer). I remember catching(actually my dad caught most of em) and releasing twelve mahseer under five pounds each in the space of two hours one afternoon on atta.

The larger ones were mostly caught on either livebait, or by trolling spoons. I never got any while casting lures but trolling was extremely effective.


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Hi Bops,

All the Dams in kerala hold good Masheer. Sholayar Dam which is in Tamilnadu on the border between Kerala annd TN in the Anamalai Range would be an excellent choice as TN is open to new ideas and the location is spectacular.

The tribals catch a lot of huge Masheer on Chilwa and some major Murrel on frogs. I had fished the dam some 20 years ago trolling from a bamboo raft and had some decent fish.


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Hi Bops,

Powai lake in Bombay had Mahseer - Tor Khudree - but I dont think any exist now; at least I haven't heard of any member of the angling club having caught one in the recent ( or not so recent !) past. The MSAA website still lists mahseer as one of the fish in the lake - perhaps the club sec will be able to give you more information. He is a member of this forum but has no posts to his credit !!! I'll PM you his contact details.


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Thanks guys for all the info.

Hawkeye, yes I know Gordon I have been in touch with him by email for many years now.

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Hi Bops,

Water flowing in an out is not enough for natural breeding of mahseer to take place in a lake. The bottom of the lake, the natural food that it holds, and the natural instinct of the fish to move up into streams to breed when the monsoons arrive are part of the habitat requirement without which the stock you put in will grow if the food is right, but will eventually die out.

Some good reading from Tata Power at Lonavala.
http://www.fao.org/docrep/005/y3994e/y3994e0p.htm

If you are getting into this, why not try some mussullah as well? They can co-exist with the kudhree, and it would be interesting to see mussullah again, as they are a much larger and harder fighting species than the kudhree.


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Mussullah is a good idea but where does one get fingerlings from? Tor Khudree fingerlings are a lot easier to get.


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Tata Power Lonavala. The breed all of the big 4
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:42 pm 
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Bops,

Owen's inputs are invaluable. However, there is no harm in experimenting.
If you need help call me.

Sandeep


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Bops,
With Mahseer in rivers getting rarer [and smaller] and catches unpredictable it is time to lease a lake stock & manage it well, build a small resort on the bank and offer anglers a full angling holiday package. All the best.

Ashok.


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Location: 31°25'38.13"N, 76°26'17.69"E
Bhakra & Pong in Himachal are two huge lakes with really big yellow and red fins...

You'll have to be care ful about predators though as mahseer fry are readliy taken by sol (murral) and singhada (shovel nose cat fish)... thats the story with pong... the mahseer numbers are in decline 'cause the cat fish are busy munching on them...

another thing you'll have to take into account is the breeding part... don't know about the south, but in breeding seasons the guys up north run up the little feeder streams and rivers with gravel bottoms to spawn!

You can get in touch with HP Fishiries Dept. in Bilaspur, HP for yellow fin and red fin seed... I'll try to get you their address...

All the best...


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Thanks Gypsy, look forward to the address.

Bopanna


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Hi Gypsy / Bops,
Chancess are that the yellow fin may not survive our southern climatic conditions, but the red might.
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Bops,

Mr.BD Sharma is the Director cum Warden, Directorate of Fisheries, HP. Email: dirhpfish@rediffmail.com dirhpfish@hotmail.com fisheries-hp@nic.in

'Matasaya Bhawan'

Directorate of Fisheries

Himachal Pradesh, Bilaspur-174 001.

Phone-91-1978-224068(O)

Phone-91-1978-224068(Fax)

Phone-91-1978-223390(R)


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:11 pm 
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bops u have a propopsed sight for the project in mind?


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Bops,

The following link displays a calculator for Masheer in terms of life span

http://www.fishbase.org/PopDyn/Keyfacts ... 832&fc=122

and this link will give you an idea about food habits and the growth in Mahseer in Domesticating it, this is for Golden Mahseer but I think the same can be applied for other species too.

http://www.fao.org/docrep/005/y3994e/y3994e0d.htm

Hope this helps


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Heres one more article on Pond Breeding of Mahseer.

http://www.fao.org/docrep/005/y3994e/y3994e0l.htm


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Thanks folks, for your valuable inputs.


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Hii Bops,


I have fished in a lake.............most of the fish were rohu and catla...........bait fishing would not work in most lakes as the bottom is covered with vegitation unlike river cauvery where the bottom is mostly rocky..........also masheer in lakes may not grow as big as they grow in rivers, the reason being....lakes have less oxygen content and also less space compare to rivers..........The bigger the area for the fish to play around the bigger it gets...............thats what I have observed when I compared fish in small and big ponds.

Also I think the flow of river water makes it more hard to retrive a masheer but in lakes where the water is still it would be less force required.


Tim


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Are there still any Mahseer in Nainital lake!!


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Guys,

I guess stocking mahseer in lakes has been done for ages in various parts of the country as a food source. It would be a good idea for someone to start stocking them purely for angling. I know they won't get a big as their 'wild' cousins in the rivers, but atleast they'll be more accessable to a wider range of people.

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Mighty Marlin.


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Very true.....


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Bops
We seriously need to start thinking on those line for Bangers atleast
where one can drive out in the morning and get back by sundown.
some thing like Powai, would be ideal. membership and the works

Lenny


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Sure Lenny, Beemorein is waiting for you to contact him.


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IndianAngler wrote:
Sure Lenny, Beemorein is waiting for you to contact him.


Yikes :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Hey Freddy,
I am just waiting when I get a chance to meet you guys in Bombay,
dont care for the Mumbai stuff (naming)Bala started, you know who, my birth cert says so
Its not so bad darling.
Now I do have a chance to come back here more often
there was a gap when I was busy.
Now that Bops has got his life time membership at Powai
can I swipe his card there hehehehe !!!!

Lenny


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why don,t u stock barramundi fingerlings,,in goa one guys stocked his pond with barras and reguraly harvest them :lol:


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I know the intentions of cultivating a stock in a new location is of good nature, but please consider the adverse effects. Introducing a new species to an environment can have very bad consequences. Do a search on snake heads in US, African Killer Bees, etc. I know regulations are lax or nonexistant, but please use caution before introducing a new species to an enviornment.


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Hi,

In my small five acre "lake" I have stocked golden mahseer. They have over three years grown to an average of 2 Kgs. This is as likely my inability at good fish management showing up as it is anything to do with the fish or water! I occasionally catch them on bait and they put up a good fight for there size. They are quite hardy and survive alright. My "lake" is purely for angling!

All the best

Lakhyaman


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Hi, I like spinning for Masheer as well as Snakehead. My first masheer was on a plug mage by my self by using a cap of a parker pen and some lead.
For masheer just use a golden or silver spoon/spinners., or use Rapala jointed minnow, original floater for rivers, or Countdown or divers for lakes.


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sorry for posting on such an old thread but the thought of having a lake stocked with masheer is just to tempting. The info i provide i hope will be helpful...

the lakes in and around pune owned by tata were all stocked at one time with Masheer. these still exist in good numbers in Khadakwasla Dam(dont think its tata owned though) and Mulshi. the are also present in the Dams Above the Khadakwasla dam.... Panshet & Temnagar(i think thats the name).... I have caught Masheer in Khadakwalsa & in Mulshi so i know they are there. My dad in 96 caught a massive 32lb Golden.... Picks at the site for proof are not available as we were fishing near the sluice gates(restricted area) and after landing the fish we packed up and moved off.... would be glad to upload the pick of the fish though. would need to see if Dad has a soft copy :) We use home made spoons and 12lb test..... and if you using 12lb test a 32lb fish will take u 45min to land! as proven on that day.:)

hey what do u know he has a pic on facebook :) here it is.
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I always felt I was born about 30 years late and missed most of the great Mahseer fishing in North India ! :lol:


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