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Pics of the mahaseer that hooked on peculiar - hv a look at the red gash on the throat. and another pic of a small gooch - both caught by shiv

hey how does one host a pic..i browsed then clicked host it..what next??


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Hi Viraj,
better do it on photo bucket. Bops has the procedure down in one of his posts. Image shack does not work for me either.
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Hi Owen and Bobby

Hv a look at the pics of the mahsser and goonch:




Have a look at the gash on the throat - it apparently happens sometimes when the fish goes for the lower treble and the middle treble snags on the outside of the throat


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Hi Viraj,

Very nice images, nice Bardus Tor..oops!!

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Is that you in with the beard?

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Very nice images ... could do witha bit of mercy on the mahseer photo ,, personally dont approve of the hanging method for the mahseer ...


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Yep!! Fred likes them in a frying pan .... :lol:


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Hi Viraj,

Excellent pics, nice to see some Mahseer from the north. Looking forward to more from you 8)

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Arent u the one in the frying pan mate ??? what with these Singapore 2 piece trips once a month .. ???


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That's my friend Shiv and his son Jansher. On the hanging aspect I went thru the furious posts between 'Hotshot' and others - I agree the hanging looks terrible - and will restrict to the gentler show casing..

Incase u didn't see the posts on the hanging photos - the gist was that we guys have been piercing the nylon thread thru the lip and not taking it thru the gills - so while the photos look tough the fish is safe - while I dont like the piercing business, I 'm told that its safer than passing the rope thru the mouth/gills esp for a largish one.

Here's another one I caught some time back.


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HI Guys, something to share:

Here in Malaysia, many mahseer anglers tether (string) their fish for the foto shots, though I suspect it's more because these fish are soo hard to catch, they'd want just that extra few minutes... :P

For small fish, some employ the lip method: piercing the soft part of the lip. But for larger specimens, the cord is passed thru the gill covers. Personally, I'm not for the lip thing; you damage the fish, opening the door to infection and stuff.

Actually, I know cases of mahseer being tethered by the gill opening and kept for days without undue harm. However, we usually recommend not more than say two hours. That's more than enough time for fotos and extended ogling.

We NEVER tether snakeheads like the murrel. They are labyrinth fish ie they need to come up to the surface to 'breathe'. The presence of the cord hinders this function. They die quickly. Included in this class of fishes are the giant gorami, giant snakehead (toman/pla shado).

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Hi JB,
What about those tags mate?
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What's the idea behind germany insisting that fish are not released over a certian size???


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The idea i guess is to give the smaller fishes in the lakes a chance to grow. It is also an eat what you catch kind of policy.
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Interesting, possibly because the small fishlings are stocked and are more likely to be gobbled up than the 'wild' fishlings that have managed to survive..

This is another angle - wild verus stocked versu fed...

Is there any catch & eat/kill 'policy'?

Just returned from the Yamuna and spent an afternoon/morning..nothing, but I attribute that to poor angling because of my lack of knowledge of the beat and maybe the water was a bit high. No consolation though because the local patwari calls me and says that he caught a 12 Kg mahaseer 15 minutes after I left for Delhi :?

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Where do you fish the Yamuna ? The visions i have of the Yamuna at Delhi are horrble. Nothing but a cesspool. Can't imagine any fish surviving in its waters in the Delhi area.
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Hi Viraj,

Thanks for your last post on the Yamuna. I found it very interesting and I hope the Director Fisheries in Haryana does take the initiative and reintroduce Mahseer in the Yamuna.

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All of you could write a line or urging the Deptt of Fisheries on reviving Mahseer populations and Mahseer sport fishing in the Poanta - Kalesar - Hatnikund - Tajewala belt on the Yamuna. The e mail is of the Fisheries Deptt is <hryfish@haryanafisheries.com> and the mail address is -


Fisheries Department, Haryana
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Phone & Fax- 0172- 2734979

DO WRITE, IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE!


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HI Ashok

Thanks for the address.

Does anyone know the concerned person at Tata Power, Lonavla??


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Thanks Ashok and Viraj,
Thats a nice fish you have Viraj.
Yes Ashok, will write to the man. Was wondering, would it be better if we have a common petition here on the IA site and all of us download and sign and send it on? either a common one or individual? I've seen many issues being handled like this in the west and with our increasing awareness of citizens rights, I'm sure the effect will be multiplied many times over.
Viraj, Dev-another member, and I went down to the Hindon Barrage near Ghaziabad today and cast around for the fun of it-we got a couple of catfish-incidently my FIRST catch in 30 years...
The stink was awful in the adjacent barrage and the water was black and foam flecked.We need a little more than arm chair conservation, thats why the request for this petition-who knows , a small step for mankind...?
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this petiton is a very good thought.... [smilie=superkewl.gif]

Show me the dotted line


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Who are we going to petition?

What is the objective of the petition?

How are we going to follow up the petition?

Should we start with the Delhi Drains or the rivers that take in the muck?

The Hindon takes in the muck that is generated from West UP - the Hapur, Philkhua, Meerut, Ghzbd belt..the muck is from industry...

The Yamuna flow is less. because the water is diverted to Haryana...

I dont see the 'executive' being concerened

Possibly the environment/pollution committee established by the Supreme Court is the right Authority to address. Incidentally, I know the chairperson of the Committee and can certainly forward our petition..and follow up.


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I did write to the concerned Director of Fisheries, Haryana but the e mail bounced! I will send the same by Regd. Post and also request him to become a member of IA. Let us see what he has to say.

An intresting observation by Mr.Korla, the man in charge of Fisheries, Kullu valley, HP - "Where are the license numbers, in Kullu valley" ??? He was pointing that even local anglers are not buying license but poaching! I hope anglers do take heed, buy many more licenses and the sport fishing in the valley improves in quality.


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Dear Viraj,

You start at Delhi, I will start at Poanta. No harm in that. The more we speak out the better. At the worst the deptt will not act. In Vikasnagar-Poanta-Hatnikund area our area of concern would be reintroduction of fingerling mahseer, poaching and probably not industrial pollution.

Begin the good work.

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Viraj,
Going by the WASI model in karnataka, there seems to be some light at the end of the tunnel.There really is a change -from NO mahseer due to uncontrolled poaching/dynamiting to great fishing,as many forumers here would attest.... all with a positive approach and 3-4 river guards-probably ex poachers-but they would make the best guards :wink: has shown us that a very loose PPP may work :roll:
I am a relative newcomer to N India and a total newbie at angling...and am so firmly hooked, I curse myself for not starting earlier! I plan to stick around here for a while and dont want Mahseer fishing or fishing in general to go the way of our wildlife-we are still lucky that such magnificent opportunities are still available, as is very evident from your pics...
Hopefully in this day of enlightened Public and a responible reaction from the bureaucracy, I sort of feel optimistic about the whole thing.As Ashok suggests, we may need a multi pronged concentrated effort.Director Fisheries Haryana, Lonavala, Pollution control new delhi-lets hit them all.With you and Ashok spearheading this, it may just work!
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